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#2204588 - 01/31/19 04:26 PM Jr Lien Home Improvement HOEPA question
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We have a customer who has requested a second mortgage to do home improvement. The loan amount is small. $21,500. This is causing the loan to be in a HOEPA status. The term is 9 months. It will be an interest only closed end line of credit. He does not have enough equity in his home to do a HELOC. It is my understanding that we are unable to do a balloon payment under HOEPA. Also we have not originated any HOEPA loans in the past. We are still with in 3 days of application and are trying to determine if we can accommodate this request. We did not originate 50% of our mortgage loans in a rural or underserved area. So I believe this is preventing us from the small creditor exemption. ( I am not really sure if that is relevant ) As I believe the balloon payment could not be in 9 months. Please let me know if any of you are doing home improvement second loans and how you are accomplishing it when it tests positive for HOEPA.
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#2204598 - 01/31/19 05:01 PM Re: Jr Lien Home Improvement HOEPA question Carol Hopper
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You need to lower the finance charges or extend the term to get it out of Section 32 - small creditor or not - a Section 32 loan cannot contain a balloon.
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#2204912 - 02/04/19 02:50 PM Re: Jr Lien Home Improvement HOEPA question rlcarey
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Thank you for your suggestion. If we lengthen out the term, should we decide to do this for all Jr Lien Home Improvement loans. I feel like if we establish a dollar threshold-

For example all loan under $90K, will have a term of 61 months- will that seem to someone reviewing our files that we have done the following:

 You cannot purposely structure a transaction to evade HOEPA coverage (for example, splitting a loan into two loans to divide the loan fees to avoid the points-and-fees threshold). (§ 1026.34(b) and comments 34(b)-1 and -2)
IV.
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#2204919 - 02/04/19 03:07 PM Re: Jr Lien Home Improvement HOEPA question Carol Hopper
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Lengthening the term of the loan (getting rid of the balloon) doesn't make it not a HOEPA loan...it just avoids the forbidden balloon payment.
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#2204920 - 02/04/19 03:09 PM Re: Jr Lien Home Improvement HOEPA question raitchjay
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Should I be concerned if it also has the effect of taking a HOEPA loan and turning it into a non HOEPA loan. The issue for us will be the APR and not the fees.
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#2204922 - 02/04/19 03:21 PM Re: Jr Lien Home Improvement HOEPA question Carol Hopper
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Not sure what your point is, most banks structure their products so they never make a HOEPA loan.
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#2204934 - 02/04/19 03:57 PM Re: Jr Lien Home Improvement HOEPA question rlcarey
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Thank you for your patience. My point is - should all of my Jr. lien home improvements have the longer term, not just loans of small sizes. We would typically do a term of 1 year.
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#2204937 - 02/04/19 04:05 PM Re: Jr Lien Home Improvement HOEPA question Carol Hopper
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The point is--you are required by regulation NOT to have a balloon on a HOEPA loan--you don't have to change every non-HOEPA loan you originate to meet the same requirement. As Randy suggests, here we simply don't originate HOEPA loans--problem solved.
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