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#2260465 - 09/29/21 09:06 PM Negative Borrower charge
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A bank has a product similar to a no-cost product. They also offer a lender credit. This resulted in a negative borrower charge. How would this impact the finance charge noted on the CD? Should this result in a higher "amount financed" or be excluded?


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#2260466 - 09/29/21 09:20 PM Re: Negative Borrower charge Auditor16
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What is a negative borrower charge?
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#2260475 - 09/30/21 12:00 PM Re: Negative Borrower charge rlcarey
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I explained that poorly, sorry. I think I have my answer but was hoping for confirmation. A bank has a similar product to a no-cost loan. There is no application fee and they offered a lender credit as well. Typically the lender credit is to offset the origination charge and referred to as a specific lender credit. However, in this case, there is no origination charge and seems to be more of a general ledger credit because there is nothing to offset. In this case, I believe the credit should not be included in the finance charge calculation.

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#2260481 - 09/30/21 01:36 PM Re: Negative Borrower charge Auditor16
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So there are no closing costs and you are giving the borrower more money than they are borrowing to get a loan from you. Sorry, I am still not following. A lender credit is never a finance charge.
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#2260500 - 09/30/21 03:23 PM Re: Negative Borrower charge rlcarey
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You mention that a lender credit is never a finance charge. With talking to the CFPB previously, they noted that specific lender credits are used in the finance charge calculation but not general lender credits. So I supposed it depends on how you classify the lender credit. Thoughts?

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#2260514 - 09/30/21 04:04 PM Re: Negative Borrower charge Auditor16
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For example, a lender agree to pay the borrower's settlement fee at the title company of $300. On the CD, the settlement fee of $300 would be shown in the Paid by Others column with an (L) designation. The settlement fee, since it is not being paid by the borrower, is not a finance charge. I have no idea what you mean by specific credits are used in the finance charge calculation. As I indicated, a lender credit would never be a finance charge.
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#2260527 - 09/30/21 05:47 PM Re: Negative Borrower charge rlcarey
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Thanks for your help. The CFPB refers to this as a specific lender credit. So yes, I agree the settlement fee would not be included as it is offset also by the specific lender credit. I need to look into this more with regards to my question because I am phrasing this wrong. I appreciate the help!!

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