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#2267732 - 03/16/22 02:50 PM Is changing the clocks going to die???
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So I read an article this morning stating that the Senate passed an law that would make daylight savings permanent! I sure hope this happens, I personally hate the change each year. What do you think about it?
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#2267733 - 03/16/22 02:54 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I'm not a fan of 8:30 sunrises in December/January. Yes, it stinks to make the changes but if we are eliminating the changes, standard needs to be where we end up settling, despite the lost evening activities in the summer.

Read one fitness blog that indicated the controllers are wanting more money spent and a depressed citizenry with evening hours of daylight whereas the morning hours of daylight are more frequently used for "self-enrichment" (for example, exercising, meditation, etc). Hadn't ever thought of it and it might be a garbage theory but it's out there, at least.
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#2267735 - 03/16/22 03:18 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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Yeah, i wouldn't be a fan of permanent daylight saving time, for the reason Tater stated. I say just keep things rolling like they are and we'll all continue to gripe and moan occasionally and survive like we always have.
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#2267736 - 03/16/22 03:26 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I saw an article this morning that talked about when we made DST permanent in 1974 to save energy, which I vaguely remember. It said that people didn't like the dark mornings in the winter, so it was changed back the following year. It'll be interesting to see what happens with this attempt.

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#2267737 - 03/16/22 03:26 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I hate driving home in the dark, so they should push it back 2 hours and leave like that forever. 90% of the time i am driving to work in the dark anyway, so i don't care about morning hours.

and technically, the Senate passed a Bill, it would not become Law until signed by the President.
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#2267738 - 03/16/22 03:41 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I dislike the dark mornings, but in 5 years and 4 months they won't matter anymore because I won't be getting up at the butt crack of dawn for work. I look forward to the time change in the fall because my husband is a farmer/rancher and he gets to come home earlier because of the earlier setting sun; I ceremoniously say good bye to him every spring when we "spring forward" since I usually don't see him driving into the yard until dark thirty.

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#2267742 - 03/16/22 03:58 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I would like for them to leave it as it is right now. I love springing forward but hate falling back! I love having more daylight in the evenings to get outside and enjoy the day a little. Nothing like coming home from work, fixing dinner, cleaning up the mess and it's dark!. I love daylight until almost 10:00 pm!!! smile

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#2267747 - 03/16/22 04:45 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I remember the change in '74. Most of the complaints were due to children walking to school in the dark. I don't ever see any kids walking to school anymore, so maybe that won't be the pain point this time.

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#2267748 - 03/16/22 04:49 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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Kids still have to hang out at bus stops though......
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#2267749 - 03/16/22 04:52 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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The extra hour of sunlight in the winter time doesn't mean much to me.....i don't do a lot of outdoor work in the winter. I do tons in the spring and summer, when DST is in effect. As i said above, i'm in favor of leaving it alone.
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#2267755 - 03/16/22 06:14 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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There's multiple studies that indicate a significantly higher rate of heart attacks and strokes in the week-2 weeks following a time change. I'm glad DST will be sticking around. I'd much rather have more light in the evenings after work. I expect President Biden will sign the bill with no hesitation. There's strong bipartisan support for the bill in the House and Senate.

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#2267763 - 03/16/22 06:38 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? CompliantOkie
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Originally Posted by CompliantOkie
There's multiple studies that indicate a significantly higher rate of heart attacks and strokes in the week-2 weeks following a time change. I'm glad DST will be sticking around. I'd much rather have more light in the evenings after work. I expect President Biden will sign the bill with no hesitation. There's strong bipartisan support for the bill in the House and Senate.
i wonder what those outlier states that don't observe will do
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#2267779 - 03/16/22 07:27 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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According to the Bill, Arizona and Hawaii (the only 2 states that do not observe Daylight Saving Time) will be allowed to remain on standard time.
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#2267780 - 03/16/22 07:30 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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So - the question remains, if they make Daylight Time permanent, is that then Standard Time smile
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#2267787 - 03/16/22 08:07 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? Purple Pride
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Originally Posted by Purple Pride
According to the Bill, Arizona and Hawaii (the only 2 states that do not observe Daylight Saving Time) will be allowed to remain on standard time.
but what about Puerto Rico, the US Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, and American Samoa
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#2267793 - 03/16/22 08:37 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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From Reuters: The bill would allow Arizona and Hawaii, which do not observe daylight saving time, to remain on standard time as well as American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
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#2267794 - 03/16/22 08:39 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? rlcarey
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Originally Posted by rlcarey
So - the question remains, if they make Daylight Time permanent, is that then Standard Time smile

Ha! I like it.

The bill mentions the territories that Happy listed and they will stay the same that they are which is similar to AZ and Hawaii
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#2267807 - 03/17/22 12:09 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I am on the fence with the issue and don't mind it being either way but I am very interested to see once it is settled who is upset with the decision. I had not heard of what the others referenced above with the 1974 change. I appreciate the new knowledge. It is fun to watch history happen in live time.

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#2267810 - 03/17/22 12:50 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I'm completely in favor of setting the clocks and leaving it alone for good. I'm not even overly picky about which direction we set... Just leave it alone!!!
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#2267843 - 03/17/22 08:36 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I just want it to stay the same all year around. My preference is to have more light in the evenings after work.
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#2267850 - 03/18/22 12:02 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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#2267862 - 03/18/22 12:55 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I was a junior in high school in '74 when it was tried. And our high school was so overcrowded that we went split sessions with juniors and seniors going in the mornings and freshmen and sophs going in the afternoons. It was still pitch black night when we were going to school in the mornings. Most scientific studies show that standard time, not daylight saving time, aligns most closely with the body's natural sleep cycle.
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#2267866 - 03/18/22 01:53 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I go to they gym at 5 in the morning. I only have a few weeks when I'm actually waking up and the sun is already up. I absolutely HATE driving home at night, though. I was in high school last time around and honestly it didn't bother me too much. I remember walking to school (several miles) to get there for before school activities and it was dark, but I had four younger siblings. I enjoyed the quiet time!

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#2267908 - 03/18/22 06:38 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? RockChucker, CAMS
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I absolutely despise Standard time, but I am not sure I want to see it changed. I think it all depends on where you are in your time zone how you feel about it.

I have family on the very Eastern edge of the time zone and in December, when the days are shortest, sunrise is about 7:15 and sunset is about 3:45 (Standard time). Not sure about the tradeoff of staying on Savings time of having sunset at 4:45 if sunrise is 8:15 (9:15 on the Western side of the time zone). Conversely, in June, when the days are the longest, it starts getting light about 3:30 AM and is dark by 9:30 PM (Savings time). Staying on Standard time it would be getting light at 2:30 AM and dark by 8:30 PM. Great for the farmers maybe, but not so great for everyone else.
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#2268966 - 04/12/22 05:24 PM Re: Is changing the clocks going to die??? raitchjay
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I'm ok with it staying like it is, BUT if we are going to a standard I'd prefer DST all year long...

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