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#2268884 - 04/11/22 01:38 PM Older Home Discussion
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We are refinancing a loan that has an older home on the property inhabited by our borrower's father, who also has an ownership interest in the land. The age-old argument by the lender is the value is in the land--not the dwelling. The lender is not requiring hazard insurance on the home, but my question pertains to the insurance and assessments on page 1 of the LE. Does TRID require an estimate for the premium even though we're not requiring it in our underwriting? This is a home loan, not a land only loan, subject to flood and all things compliance. I welcome your feedback.

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#2268885 - 04/11/22 01:49 PM Re: Older Home Discussion Believing...
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So, you are going to be using a customized security agreement that eliminates the hazard insurance requirement?

But to answer your question, if that is the case, the answer would be "no". 1026.37(c)(4)(ii) refers to 1026.43(b)(8), which states:

(8) Mortgage-related obligations mean property taxes; premiums and similar charges identified in § 1026.4(b)(5), (7), (8), and (10) that are required by the creditor; fees and special assessments imposed by a condominium, cooperative, or homeowners association; ground rent; and leasehold payments.
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#2268889 - 04/11/22 02:26 PM Re: Older Home Discussion rlcarey
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Good morning Randy--thanks for clarifying the insurance, and to answer your question, no we use a standard note and deed of trust.

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#2268890 - 04/11/22 02:31 PM Re: Older Home Discussion Believing...
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So your standard deed of trust probably has language that states that hazard insurance is required. You may choose to not enforce that provision, but it is still a legal obligation of the borrower. Unless you strike that language from the deed of trust, I think you will need to include the hazard insurance premium on the LE and CD.
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#2268893 - 04/11/22 03:27 PM Re: Older Home Discussion Believing...
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I concur. Your disclosures have to always reflect the legal obligation under 1026.17(c).
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#2268901 - 04/11/22 04:45 PM Re: Older Home Discussion Believing...
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Thank you both!

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