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#2280929 - 02/10/23 03:16 PM Determining Flood Insurance Coverage
RafterJB Offline
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New loan using existing mortgaged property. An older house sits on the property - Appraisal in 2019 listed the market value as $15,000. We ended up with $75,000 in flood insurance - no idea where that value came from as I was not involved with the transaction. I believe the customer just got insurance in the amount the agency chose. Now trying to determine the amount of coverage actually needed.

Market value of $15,000 is not the correct approach to use.
Loan amount is well over the amount we would insure the house for.
No hazard policy in place - there is extra land and the house is not significant to the loan.
The flood policy is for $75,000 but it states a replacement cost of $90,000.

I feel the $15,000 is too low and the $90,000 is too high. I have researched estimates to reconstruct and it would be close to $115,000, but it is highly doubtful that the customer would ever rebuild this house as it is currently vacant.

How would I go about determining the correct value for flood insurance - that I can actually support?

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#2280930 - 02/10/23 03:21 PM Re: Determining Flood Insurance Coverage RafterJB
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Is this a primary residence?
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#2280935 - 02/10/23 04:12 PM Re: Determining Flood Insurance Coverage rlcarey
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No it is not.

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#2280936 - 02/10/23 04:14 PM Re: Determining Flood Insurance Coverage RafterJB
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Then your number that you need is the Actual Cost Value, which is the replacement cost minus depreciation. Did your 2019 appraisal not address depreciation and include a cost basis appraisal?

You are correct that a market value is worthless when it comes to flood insurance.
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#2280941 - 02/10/23 04:28 PM Re: Determining Flood Insurance Coverage rlcarey
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Unfortunately no - it did not contain cost basis or depreciation - it only gave an approximate value of $15 per sf for the house. The majority of the appraisal was for the land value.

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#2280946 - 02/10/23 04:45 PM Re: Determining Flood Insurance Coverage RafterJB
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Then you are left to making your own justification. You already said you calculated RCV at $115,000. Call up one of your appraisers and ask them a simple question. Choose from the options listed: If I had a house that was built in 19XX and has not had major renovations/been fully renovated and the current condition of the house was in fair/ good/excellent conditions, what sort of depreciation would you normally assign to the structure?
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