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#2281788 - 03/02/23 04:48 PM ARM Disclosures - Floor
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Our ARM Disclosure states "The minimum rate we will charge at any time is 6%, or the initial interest rate if lower."
Now that rates have gone above 6%, I've found that we are using the initial rate (higher than 6%) as the floor rate when doing the loan.

How do we fix this for the loans that have been done at a higher rate than 6%? Or is it not an issue?
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#2281794 - 03/02/23 05:20 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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It does not appear that your disclosure is wrong, is it?
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#2281799 - 03/02/23 06:01 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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"The minimum rate we will charge at any time is 6%, or the initial interest rate if lower."

Actually Randy I think it is wrong since the initial rate is not lower than 6%.

Obi - I assume there have been no rate changes so you should be able to go into your system and maintenance the floor rate to the 6%.
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#2281803 - 03/02/23 07:34 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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Ah - yes Dan, I read that the wrong way. That is a problem.
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#2281862 - 03/03/23 08:15 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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Sorry, I wasn't very clear with my question. Our ARM disclosure says the floor is "6%, or the initial rate if lower".
We recently done ARM loans with an initial rate of 6.5 or 7%, and the loan processors have used a floor of that initial rate (6.5 or 7%) instead of a floor of 6%.

Can we send a letter to the customer saying there was an error on the note and the floor on their loan is 6% and then change the floor in our system to 6%, to agree with the ARM disclosure?

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#2281863 - 03/03/23 08:27 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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That is what I would do to avoid any sort of UDAP issue.
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#2281864 - 03/03/23 09:03 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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Thank you Randy and Dan!

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#2281902 - 03/06/23 07:18 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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You also need to know that the error has not adversely impacted any of these borrowers and I would bring that to their attention - "you have not paid any greater interest because of this." If that isn't the case, do some math and issue some refunds.
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#2281918 - 03/07/23 04:10 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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I don't see why notification to the customer is required. I would just change the floor in your system to 6%. The statement "6%, or the initial rate if lower" is still accurate, the second part just doesn't apply. If the initial rate is 6.5%, and you update your system to show a 6% floor, your disclosure is accurate.

I wouldn't send anything to the customer unless the ARM disclosure or LE/CD showed the higher floor rate.
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#2281919 - 03/07/23 04:18 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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TMatt - I think it is because they appear to have a conflict between the early disclosure and the actual note - which represents the legal obligation.
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#2281961 - 03/08/23 02:16 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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Would not a rate lock agreement with an LE noting the rate lock and, if applicable, the new ceiling and floor, be controlling in these instances where the early ARM disclosure reflects a lower ceiling and floor?
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#2281963 - 03/08/23 02:23 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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A different floor and/or ceiling is a different ARM program and you would have to provide them a new early ARM disclosure.

Official Interpretation
Paragraph 19(b)(2)

2. Variable-rate loan program defined. i. Generally, if the identification, the presence or absence, or the exact value of a loan feature must be disclosed under this section, variable-rate loans that differ as to such features constitute separate loan programs. For example, separate loan programs would exist based on differences in any of the following loan features:


B. The rules relating to changes in the index value, interest rate, payments, and loan balance.

C. The presence or absence of, and the amount of, rate or payment caps.
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#2281968 - 03/08/23 02:51 PM Re: ARM Disclosures - Floor Obi
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Well done, Mr. Carey.
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