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#250223 - 09/30/04 10:02 PM Re: last day posting?
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How about reading Michael Moore, would that make me a loser??
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#250224 - 09/30/04 10:16 PM Re: last day posting?
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How about reading Michael Moore, would that make me a loser??




No, I can read him like a book. He is a liar. That makes me perceptive, but hardly a loser.
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#250225 - 09/30/04 10:28 PM Re: last day posting?
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He doesn't lie so much as he twists the truth. About 90% of what he writes is fact. He even lists his resources. It is just he twists and distorts the facts to make them sound the way he wants them to sound. there is a difference.
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#250226 - 09/30/04 10:54 PM Re: last day posting?
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How about reading Michael Moore, would that make me a loser??




I agree with Z - you may look like a loser if anyone sees you reading anything by Michael Moore, but you would only be a loser if you believe him.

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#250227 - 09/30/04 10:57 PM Re: last day posting?
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He doesn't lie so much as he twists the truth. About 90% of what he writes is fact. He even lists his resources. It is just he twists and distorts the facts to make them sound the way he wants them to sound. there is a difference.




Isn't that the same thing that Hitler was doing? Is it not ture that "twists and distorts the facts" = lying? Unless, of course, you are also twisted and distorted.

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#250228 - 09/30/04 10:59 PM Re: last day posting?
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So how many time and how often do you need to buy lottery tickets to make it a habit?




Insert the number of times or how often you play here______.

That's the habit number, but only because you asked.

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#250229 - 09/30/04 11:17 PM Re: last day posting?
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Are you any more or less a loser than when you rent a DVD and the movie turns out to be bad? I'd say less.




Well, if you consistently rent movies that are bad, you are a loser. Anyone that consistently plays the lotto is, by definition, a loser. Beyond that, those that actually think that they will win, e.g. the poster of this thread, are even bigger losers versus those that don't give that much thought to actually winning.

So, it appears (based on fact) that Michael P is a loser, big time! Sorry Michael P, sometimes the facts don't come out in your favor.




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#250230 - 09/30/04 11:26 PM Re: last day posting?
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You're wrong Paragon.
Example
George W Bush was gay (meaning homosexual). - this is a lie.
George W Bush was gay (meaning happy) at the debates yesterday while holding hands with Dick. - this could imply that GWB is a homosexual, but the fact here is that he was happy. its all about perseption(sp?). see the difference?
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#250231 - 09/30/04 11:36 PM Re: last day posting?
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Your wrong Paragon.
Example
George W Bush was gay (meaning homosexual). - this is a lie
George W Bush was gay (meaning happy) at the debates yesterday while holding hands with Dick. - this could imply that GWB is a homosexual, but the fact here is that he was happy. its all about perseption(sp?). see the difference?




You are SO smart, Buddy. Love the way you just turned that right back around. Some might say BOL is not BIG enough for 2 intellectuals....



You're my hero.... (*NOTE - That was not sarcasm...)

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#250232 - 10/01/04 01:37 PM Re: last day posting?
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Some might say BOL is not BIG enough for 2 intellectuals....





I'm scared to think who you consider to be the other.
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#250233 - 10/01/04 01:43 PM Re: last day posting?
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You know, I really like it this way. I can see Paragon's unique and crafty avatars, but with him squelched, I don't have to read his drivel.

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#250234 - 10/01/04 03:41 PM Re: last day posting?
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squelched? When did that happen - I didn't feel a thing.

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#250235 - 10/01/04 03:50 PM Re: last day posting?
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You're wrong Paragon.
Example
George W Bush was gay (meaning homosexual). - this is a lie.
George W Bush was gay (meaning happy) at the debates yesterday while holding hands with Dick. - this could imply that GWB is a homosexual, but the fact here is that he was happy. its all about perseption(sp?). see the difference?




Lie: Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression. To convey a false image or impression: Appearances often lie. To cause to be in a specific condition or affect in a specific way by telling falsehoods: You have lied yourself into trouble.

"to say or do that which is intended to deceive another, when he has a right to know the truth, or when morality requires a just representation."

I rest my case.

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#250236 - 10/01/04 04:01 PM Re: last day posting?
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Well if I may reopen your case, where is my lie in that statement?
GWB was gay last night at the debates......
I cannot predict how you are going to take that statement. just like michael moore states what he feels, then a fact along the same lines to push twords a more liberal idea. but in the end,
an opionion(sp?)+ Fact does not = lie
Now if I may, I rest my case.
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#250237 - 10/01/04 04:58 PM Re: last day posting?
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"to say or do that which is intended to deceive another, when he has a right to know the truth, or when morality requires a just representation."




What part of the above definition of a lie, one of many definitions, don't you understand? Moore is intentionally out to deceive others by shading the truth and anyone that does that is lying - when they know that that is what they are doing.

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#250238 - 10/01/04 05:45 PM Re: last day posting?
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Thats not it at all, have you even read any of his books or seen his movies? take "Roger and me" this is a movie based on facts alone. the only difference is the facts he chooses to put in this movie are all about how hard life was when GM closed the plant. rather than show how GM tried to help the laid off workers. Once again, It is not that he is lying, it is all about the way he uses his resources.

If I say Bush sent many americans to Iraq and they died. I am stating a fact, but it makes bush look bad.

If I say Bush sent many americans to Iraq and they liberated thousands. once again I am stating a fact, but it makes Bush look good. (don't go tell people I made bush look good, this is just an example.) A lie is what danny boy from CBS did.
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#250239 - 10/01/04 06:38 PM Re: last day posting?
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Once again, It is not that he is lying, it is all about the way he uses his resources




Well, not stating the whole truth, at least in my book, would be lying. If you intentionally omit information, then you are not telling the entire truth. Other than you, Clinton, and Michael Moore, I think pretty much everyone else would consider that lying.
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#250240 - 10/01/04 07:17 PM Re: last day posting?
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Read what Happy has to say above, Buddy. You are looking a little like a space cadet on this issue.

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#250241 - 10/01/04 07:20 PM Re: last day posting?
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that means that bush has lied b/c he has not told the truth about the weapons of mass destruction. he has not told the whole truth about the whole situation in iraq.

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#250242 - 10/01/04 07:33 PM Re: last day posting?
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That would mean that every prez. we have ever had was a liar, including Bush. not to mention about 90% of all americans,(this is just an educated guess not a fact.) so your theory here is that anyone who withholds the truth from the public, would be a liar? so any time the government uses a term like "top secret" or "classified" they are lying?? a lie is a falsification of a fact, not an opinionated version of it.
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#250243 - 10/01/04 08:06 PM Re: last day posting?
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that means that bush has lied b/c he has not told the truth about the weapons of mass destruction. he has not told the whole truth about the whole situation in iraq.




Are you from this planet? Bush tells the truth as he knows the truth to be. You are into the conspiracy theory area, e.g. what did he know and when did he know it. Bush didn’t parse the truth he told the truth based on worldwide reports.

Your Buddy is saying: “What are we missing by parsing the behavior of chimpanzees into the conventional categories recognized largely from our own behavior?” (substitute Moore for the chimpanzees) Moore has an agenda - he parsing anything and everything as a slave to that agenda, but looking at the whole person - he's a BIG FAT LYING WHITE MAN.

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#250244 - 10/01/04 08:48 PM Re: last day posting?
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that means that bush has lied b/c he has not told the truth about the weapons of mass destruction. he has not told the whole truth about the whole situation in iraq.




Are you from this planet? Bush tells the truth as he knows the truth to be. You are into the conspiracy theory area, e.g. what did he know and when did he know it. Bush didn’t parse the truth he told the truth based on worldwide reports.

Your Buddy is saying: “What are we missing by parsing the behavior of chimpanzees into the conventional categories recognized largely from our own behavior?” (substitute Moore for the chimpanzees) Moore has an agenda - he parsing anything and everything as a slave to that agenda, but looking at the whole person - he's a BIG FAT LYING WHITE MAN.




I RESENT THAT REMARK...

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#250245 - 10/01/04 09:16 PM Re: last day posting?
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That would mean that every prez. we have ever had was a liar, including Bush. not to mention about 90% of all americans,(this is just an educated guess not a fact.) so your theory here is that anyone who withholds the truth from the public, would be a liar? so any time the government uses a term like "top secret" or "classified" they are lying?? a lie is a falsification of a fact, not an opinionated version of it.





you're comparing apples to oranges. It is one thing to know the truth but withhold it for valid reasons (i.e. Bush is giving a press conference and he knows we are going to attack Fallujah. Yet when asked by the press where we will attack, he claims he is not sure. This is done so the enemy could not get an advantage.) It is another to know the truth but to only deliver a portion of it, in order to make your side of the story look better (i.e., this administration put sanctions on Iran without the support of the rest of the world. In reality, Clinton put the sanctions on Iran, but if Bush hadn't called Kerry on this, everyone would have thought it was true. Another example, Bush lied to the American public about WMD and going into Iraq. Well, Kerry had the same info and also voted to go into Iraq, wouldn't he be lying to the public as well?)

Buddy, if you are still unclear what lying is, polease PM me with your phone number and I'll have my 8 year old call and explain it to you.
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#250246 - 10/01/04 10:40 PM Re: last day posting?
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I RESENT THAT REMARK




Even that is a lie. There is no "I" part as you are anon. Register, perhaps as Fat White Man? That way, resentment will be taken seriously.

Also, did you know that for a time ranging roughly from the last part of the 17th century to the second half of the 18th, the word resent could refer to gratitude and appreciation as well as injury and insult. So, with you living in the dark ages, thinking wise, what do you mean by resent anyway?

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#250247 - 10/01/04 10:52 PM Re: last day posting?
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I RESENT THAT REMARK




Even that is a lie. There is no "I" part as you are anon. Register, perhaps as Fat White Man? That way, resentment will be taken seriously.

Also, did you know that for a time ranging roughly from the last part of the 17th century to the second half of the 18th, the word resent could refer to gratitude and appreciation as well as injury and insult. So, with you living in the dark ages, thinking wise, what do you mean by resent anyway?




Actually Paragon per your comments earlier it is imprudent to say the least to have identifying information connected to your online persona...sooooo we are all actually anon's are we not? Let me know!

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