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#336774 - 03/23/05 03:41 AM
Re: Deadly HS Shooting in Minnesota
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Talk about close to home, they just arrested a 14-year old today for having ingredients for explosives at a Jr. High, and a plan written down of his plan to do some damage. This happened at the Jr High I attended - that's close to home!
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#336775 - 03/23/05 02:22 PM
Re: Deadly HS Shooting in Minnesota
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He is 3 months away from turning 16, and does not want DHS involved. He loves his little sisters and doesn't want them affected. They (at least) are being provided for.
You should call child protective services. His parents CAN NOT do this to him, it's illegal. They can help him find a place to stay and ensure that his parents are held responsible for his care.
As for his siblings, are they better off if the parents are allowed to expel him from his home two years before he turns 18? If nothing is done now, what will they do to his little sisters when THEY become a burden to care for?
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#336776 - 03/23/05 02:39 PM
Re: Deadly HS Shooting in Minnesota
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Dave that's horrible. I saw pictures of the shooter in MN, and he looks like one of my neighbor kids. bjp, I'm not discounting DHS, We are just watching the situation closely, and helping where we can.
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#336777 - 03/23/05 02:53 PM
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I agree with you. If you do call right away before knowing what is totally going on, you could scare that boy into running away. Then the girls are in the same situation and he is in an even worse situation. I would see if the girls are in a unhealthy situation beyone the fact that the parents seem to be idoits. Maybe the son sided with dad and that is why mom only took the girls. Maybe she truly can't do it by herself with 3 kids and thought dad would do a good job with the older son, she may be protecting the girls from something that she feels the son can protect himself from. If she takes on too much, maybe DHS will take the girls too and she knows the son is close to being on his own anyway. There could be MANY reasons you don't know about yet. It takes a village to raise a child, and you are definately doing your part. Congratulations on being a strong person that can help without judging.
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#336778 - 03/23/05 03:31 PM
Re: Deadly HS Shooting in Minnesota
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I still think that every one of you would help, just as we are. I mean, look at Jac and his family. They helped a child in need, and I'm sure many others on this site have also. Every time you ask a child,(yours or not) "How was your day?" or "Do you need a ride?" or any other question showing that you care about them, you are helping.
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#336779 - 03/23/05 10:26 PM
Re: Deadly HS Shooting in Minnesota
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I agree, deppfan. I just want to share something on the ride question. Kids are so bombarded nowadays about never talking to strangers or accepting rides that you have to be careful how and when you offer a ride. I picked up my kids from their after school program and a young boy that I have known for about five years was walking home ahead of us. I stopped and asked him if he wanted a ride and he froze and looked frightened. I felt so bad! It made me feel really weird and icky. He declined and started walking home faster. My son chastised me for even offering. What a strange, sad world it can be sometimes.
I commend you for your good job in helping a child. Keep up the good work.
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#336781 - 03/28/05 07:53 PM
Re: Deadly HS Shooting in Minnesota
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Minnesota is just a little too close to home for my taste. Back in my day, kids were picked on all the time. Usually, it ended with a bloody lip and maybe a loose tooth or two. Kids these days are surrounded with a different mentality, different social environment, different home lives.......not saying that they're justified in the violent acts they sometimes commit, but I AM saying that BEFORE they commit them, we have a much greater need to step in and recognize some warning signs. Don't be afraid of upsetting or disappointing your kids. "Parents, the Anti-Drug" is a wonderful slogan, but it works for more than drugs.
Elena, you truly are an ANGEL.
I was picked on all the time. I had within my reach enough fire power to take out a small country and I knew how to use it. Taking the fight to the school was never even a consideration. I don't know what makes kids cross that line. I do think we have desensitized our youth.
The solution may be as simple as spending more time with our kids. Here is an unpleasant thought: maybe not everyone should have kids.
FYI, Red Lake is not a cute little northern MN town. The reservation has a host of problems that start with substance abuse and end with an unreal amount of poverty. I don't even know where to start with Red Lake.
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#336783 - 03/28/05 08:15 PM
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The boy was living with his grandfather and the grandfather's wife/girlfriend. The boy shot both of them before he went to the school. It is a very sad story.
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#336785 - 03/28/05 10:02 PM
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Think about this, grandpa was like 51 years old and his girlfriend was like 35. Do the math there. How Tragic.
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#336786 - 03/28/05 10:22 PM
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The have arrested someone in connection with the shooting. They won't give more details yet due to federal law and the age of the person.
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#336788 - 03/28/05 10:33 PM
Re: Deadly HS Shooting in Minnesota
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I'm 51 and have a 14 year old child, can't image being my age and having a 14 year old grand child.
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#336789 - 03/29/05 05:25 PM
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The have arrested someone in connection with the shooting. They won't give more details yet due to federal law and the age of the person.
They are thinking now there may have been a conspiracy and although they won't release detail, there is plenty of speculation here in MN. Some of the speculation is that there was a much larger plan that wasn't carried out to it's full extent and that this other boy arrested may have been involved. They are now siezing computers, files, etc....
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#336790 - 03/29/05 09:36 PM
Re: Deadly HS Shooting in Minnesota
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There are cultural differences that should be considered prior to condeming the population based on the ages mentioned. In our native communities, "Elders" are often in their 50's. They live and have lived for so many years in such difficult conditions that they don't live as long as other races do. Having children, who prepetuate the tribe's stregnth, is not seen in the same light as we view it either. Without youth, they die out. This is why you see so many large families in native communities. It's not wrong, it's just different.
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