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#46667 - 12/03/02 09:14 PM Reg CC Hold
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We have one customer acccount. 2 deposits About 30 checks each. This customer is kiting, closing accounts and we are placing holds on all their deposited checks local and non-local. Do we have to put a reason other than doubt collectibiltiy. Please help me Quick!

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#46668 - 12/03/02 09:18 PM Re: Reg CC Hold
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You should be fine with that if I'm understanding your question completely...which I think I am. You have a legitimate reason to doubt collectability.
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#46669 - 12/03/02 09:24 PM Re: Reg CC Hold
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We have had several kiting instances in the last two years. We have used Reason to Doubt Collectibility on all SARs filed and the OTS examiners did not have a problem with them.
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#46670 - 12/03/02 09:42 PM Re: Reg CC Hold
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Thanks for your promptness, it nice to have back up when you need it!

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#46671 - 12/06/02 04:32 PM Re: Reg CC Hold
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Another question...A customer deposits a large local check less $200 cash back. Do we put the hold on the amount of the check or the amount of the deposit less the cash back. I am fairly new at Reg CC and can use all the help I can get!

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#46672 - 12/06/02 05:13 PM Re: Reg CC Hold
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The hold may be placed only on the amount of the check deposited in excess of $5,000. The first $5,000 must be made available in accordance with your normal availability schedule.
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#46673 - 12/06/02 05:14 PM Re: Reg CC Hold
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That depends on your reason. You only have to give $100 availability with the exception of the large deposit reason. Then you have to give $5,000 availability. If they have the funds in the account it looks like you should be able to hold the amount of the check less $100.
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#46674 - 12/06/02 07:36 PM Re: Reg CC Hold
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If they took $200 cash back at the time of deposit, you don't have to apply the $100 rule (since it's already been satisfied).
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#46675 - 12/06/02 08:01 PM Re: Reg CC Hold
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Is this a trick question... The answer would be - neither - The hold should not be placed on the entire check or the deposit less $200 (you would be giving $400 avail). It should be on the entire deposit amount - which is already less the $200.

My question - If you can place a hold on funds that offset transit checks cashed, couldn't you, in this case, place a hold on the deposit + $100?
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#46676 - 12/06/02 08:02 PM Re: Reg CC Hold
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CC will allow you to provide one disclosure notice to the depositor which will cover all the subsequent checks which are deposited. I do not recall the exact citation section, but this provides a simplification of the notice requirement. Especially if you intend on placing a hold on all deposits in the future.

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#46677 - 12/06/02 08:55 PM Re: Reg CC Hold
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Whoa!

The "single notice" rule only applies (for consumer accounts) to chronic overdrafters. For business accounts, it applies to chronic ODs, large deposits, and redeposited checks.

Reference 229.13(g)
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