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#496842 - 02/10/06 04:41 PM
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Actually depending upon the poller it is entirely possible that only a certain region of the country was polled. It is unlikely that AP actually did the polling, but wrote the article. But with statistics like this it seems very likely that only one segment was polled. Especially since the article did not state that it was an entirely random poll based on a national audience.
translation: we are going down swinging. nobody is going to mess with "my man" without a fight. if something bad is said about him i will assume the poll is biased (take notes  ) and must not be accurate.
Ron, I am not saying that at all. I am purely stating that in sampleing, if you want to be taken seriously, you have to quanlify your sample.
fair enough. it is probably oversight on my part to believe that a professional polling organization would do everything in its power to make unbiased polls because that is their business and if they make skewed polls they will certainly hurt their revenue stream as it will hurt their credibility as an organization. but otherwise i think you are correct 
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#496843 - 02/10/06 04:48 PM
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No see Ron, you think that a law degree makes you an expert on my language. It does not. I was referring to him as the Bias. See when I say "he is a bias failure. I am pointing out that he is the bias not is bias and is a failure. So I do not know how this makes me a NASCAR fan (which I am not). It means you think you know rhetoric. Keep posting at your pseudo job Ron. You have proven to all of us that you are much better than we will ever be.
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#496844 - 02/10/06 04:56 PM
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Steve1950 is a bias failure himself
you did say this, right? if you truly meant that, wouldn't that mean that steven failed to state a bias? just checking. just give up.
and it's friday, chump, lighten up. i haven't posted much in a while and i was getting antsy.
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#496846 - 02/10/06 05:04 PM
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Steve1950 is a bias failure himself
you did say this, right? if you truly meant that, wouldn't that mean that steven failed to state a bias? just checking. just give up.
and it's friday, chump, lighten up. i haven't posted much in a while and i was getting antsy.
Maybe he just means that he doesn't believe that Steven is a very good seamstress and has never been able to cut across the bias? Just a thought. 
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#496847 - 02/10/06 05:09 PM
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#496849 - 02/10/06 05:16 PM
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So, what's your point?
exie-poo, read through the whole thread and you'll be able to piece it together.
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#496850 - 02/10/06 05:25 PM
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It seems a little odd to me that most of the posts that disagree with the AP-Ipsos poll in support of Bush are "unregistered." If you're going to demonize the poll and me, then at least register and post so we all know who you are. Also, I don't think one can criticize the AP-Ipsos poll's numbers and laud the Fox News poll numbers. We all know that Fox News is not unbiased.
We also all know that you are a flaming liberal but whose complaining? And I mean flaming liberal!
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#496851 - 02/10/06 05:30 PM
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#496852 - 02/10/06 05:32 PM
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So, what's your point?
exie-poo, read through the whole thread and you'll be able to piece it together.
I'll say this one more time, Buckwheat - I don't read through stuff, I either ask for the point or make a point with no other input of any value. Actually, only my point is ever of any value.
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#496853 - 02/10/06 05:37 PM
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Anytime you have these kind of threads you will always have a lot of UNREGISTERED opinions! People do not like to be verbally attacked for expressing their views! Afterall, aren't polls anonymous?
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#496855 - 02/10/06 06:11 PM
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I find it interesting when someone (in this case Steve1950) starts a thread with as biased a title as "Bush is a Failure", and then seem to be surprised when it draws equally biased responses.
Steve - I might have taken this a little more seriously if you were willing to discuss what President Bush had failed at instead of a blanket statement. The name of the thread implies that you think everything this President does is wrong, a position that the democrats seem to have embraced and are now unwavering on.
If you want to have a productive discussion, get into the specifics. Otherwise, all you will get is biased rhetoric from the left and the right, which we have seen plenty of in other threads.
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#496856 - 02/10/06 06:17 PM
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If you want to have a productive discussion, get into the specifics. Otherwise, all you will get is biased rhetoric from the left and the right, which we have seen plenty of in other threads.
Right, because the BOL Cooler discussions on specific issues have never, ever devolved into biased rhetoric from the left and the right. 
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#496857 - 02/10/06 06:30 PM
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Actually, that was exactly my point. Why start a thread that is just going go give us more of the same? We all know that Steve doesn't care for President Bush. We all know who is going to fall on which side of insulting or defending the President. Unless someone want to discuss a specific topic (i.e. President Bush is failing to control federal spending and giving us a deficit that will be difficult to eliminate), then why bother?
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#496858 - 02/10/06 06:50 PM
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#496859 - 02/10/06 06:59 PM
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#496861 - 02/10/06 07:13 PM
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When did he become able to think??
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#496862 - 02/10/06 08:05 PM
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If you want to have a productive discussion, get into the specifics. Otherwise, all you will get is biased rhetoric from the left and the right, which we have seen plenty of in other threads.
Right, because the BOL Cooler discussions on specific issues have never, ever devolved into biased rhetoric from the left and the right.
I still like the idea of numbering our arguments to conserve space and time.
Steven1950: "Left - A174"
X: "Buckwheat! Right - P963"
Ron: "Slightly off topic ramble . . . Left B23"
J: "Ron said: Quote:
"Slightly off topic ramble . . . Left B23"
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#496864 - 02/10/06 08:44 PM
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What's a Poll? Does it add to my paycheck? Hey, I heard the CA Legislature's approval rating is between 25%-27% every year - do they lose their job? No. They all get re-elected. Same with Congress. WTF is a Poll anyway and what effect does it have on anything?
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#496865 - 02/10/06 08:53 PM
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slightly off topic ramble my arse! i know you were joking by way of a stereotype/misconception about me but that just feeds into the stereotype...
...otherwise that was a funny post
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#496866 - 02/10/06 08:53 PM
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 That's because we conservatives know how to hit what we aim at!
A skill that, when combined with the pseudo-tough guy 'invade first, determine a strategy later' policy, leads to years of wacky hijinks.
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