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#538449 - 04/26/06 06:58 PM
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ya know, the death penalty has been around for how long now?? and all kinds too...hangings, firing squad, beheadings, electric chair, lethal injection.....all the anti DP people should get used to it. they do the crime, they pay the price for it...eye for an eye..ya know?
where does our constitution say eye for eye? do you also want us to devolve to blacks not being citizens and women being unable to vote, too? as much as many here want it to be (i am waiting on ya'll too  ), the constitution isn't a static document.
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#538450 - 04/26/06 06:59 PM
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Bring back the firing squad!!!!!
i realize you were being flip but the firing squad may be more humane than lethal injection.
Actually I was being serious!
Ya know, over in China, if you are on death row, you have no idea when you are going to die, neither does your family, the press, the public, etc... They just come get you one day and your done. That's it. No people gathering around to watch, no protests going on outside the prison. You could be sitting there for a week or two years.
i am surprised that a proud conservative advocates having us all become 'comrades'
I just can't stand the fact that everytime someone is about to be put to death, there are constant protests, the media is all over it and it just gets a bit ridiculous!
But you are OK with the people who stand outside chanting "burn in [censored]"?
NO SP I am not!!! I don't think anyone should be out there! I don't think anyone should be watching it happen either! I am all for the Death Penalty, I am not all for making a public spectacle out of it!
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#538451 - 04/26/06 06:59 PM
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....the point is that they were arrested, tried, convicted, and sentenced to death....and now they are crying because it "might" hurt them??? do you belong to PETA too??
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#538452 - 04/26/06 07:00 PM
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where does the constitution say its ok to take someone's life?
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#538453 - 04/26/06 07:02 PM
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We had hangings in Delaware on the books until 1996. At least that's when the last person was hanged.
Bring them back!
My question is: How do they know how much lethal injection hurts? No one has survived it, correct?
like i described before, this same method was used to euthanize animals before vets decided it was inhumane. one of the drugs administered in the lethal injection process prevents movements, largely for the benefit of the spectators.
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isn't leathal injection better than the chair?
so just what exactly is a good way to die??
once again, there is no 'right to kill' granted to the state. BOTH of those methods are inhumane.
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#538454 - 04/26/06 07:03 PM
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How do you know?
Are the pending lawsuits based on the theory that there might be pain? And what sort of pain? Like stub your toe pain, or like rip off your toe nail pain? Does it actually hurt at all to get lethal injection?
There are three drugs involved in lethal injection; a sedative, an anesthetic and a potassium mixture that causes a massive heart attack. The law suit, as far as I know, is based on information gathered on all the times that lethal injection went, shall we say, awry. They include:
*in some formulations, and over some period of time the sedative and anesthetic will cancel each other out and the inmate becomes conscious just in time for the massive heart attack.
*in some formulations the sedative loses affect within just a few minutes, and again the person is fully conscious.
*the people administering the lethal injection mess up; there are stories of it taking 35 minutes to 'find a vein', drugs being pushed under the skin instead of into the blood stream, needles popping out and so on.
Doctors and nurses do not administer the lethal injections, and doctors did not create the formulation of drugs.
So, yeah, part of the lawsuit is about "theory", but part of it is about the current practice as well.
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#538455 - 04/26/06 07:04 PM
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these criminals have no 'right to kill' either.
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#538456 - 04/26/06 07:04 PM
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....the point is that they were arrested, tried, convicted, and sentenced to death....and now they are crying because it "might" hurt them??? do you belong to PETA too??
our constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. putting them to death in the way is what is arguably 'cruel and unusual'. please find me where the state is granted a 'license to kill'.
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#538457 - 04/26/06 07:05 PM
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Oh dear.....imagine that...thats just awful
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#538459 - 04/26/06 07:06 PM
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#538460 - 04/26/06 07:06 PM
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these criminals have no 'right to kill' either.
so let them be punished. do you think i condone what they did?! the constitution probits the state from punishing them in a 'cruel and unusual' way however.
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#538462 - 04/26/06 07:07 PM
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the dp has been around too long, i don't think its going anywhere
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#538464 - 04/26/06 07:10 PM
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if someone takes away the 'right to live' from someone else, why should they continue to get that right? they shouldn't..it should be taken away too.
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#538465 - 04/26/06 07:10 PM
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the dp has been around too long, i don't think its going anywhere
well, don't count your chickens before they are hatched. like i said, the constitution is adaptive. we don't rewrite it every year. there is a clause in it that speaks directly to this issue. constitutional issues are revisited and redecided all the time you know.
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#538466 - 04/26/06 07:12 PM
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if someone takes away the 'right to live' from someone else, why should they continue to get that right? they shouldn't..it should be taken away too.
once again, our society has laws under the constitution. we cannot become vigilantes even if you think it should be done.
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#538467 - 04/26/06 07:13 PM
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i know they are. but i think its gonna stay.
but you argue it out with someone else, i'm going home!
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#538468 - 04/26/06 07:13 PM
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Bring back the firing squad!!!!!
i realize you were being flip but the firing squad may be more humane than lethal injection.
Actually I was being serious!
Ya know, over in China, if you are on death row, you have no idea when you are going to die, neither does your family, the press, the public, etc... They just come get you one day and your done. That's it. No people gathering around to watch, no protests going on outside the prison. You could be sitting there for a week or two years.
i am surprised that a proud conservative advocates having us all become 'comrades'
I just can't stand the fact that everytime someone is about to be put to death, there are constant protests, the media is all over it and it just gets a bit ridiculous!
But you are OK with the people who stand outside chanting "burn in [censored]"?
NO SP I am not!!! I don't think anyone should be out there! I don't think anyone should be watching it happen either! I am all for the Death Penalty, I am not all for making a public spectacle out of it!
Totally agree! 
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#538469 - 04/26/06 07:14 PM
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I dont think anyone is talking about becoming a vigilante
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#538470 - 04/26/06 07:15 PM
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We had hangings in Delaware on the books until 1996. At least that's when the last person was hanged.
Bring them back!
My question is: How do they know how much lethal injection hurts? No one has survived it, correct?
like i described before, this same method was used to euthanize animals before vets decided it was inhumane. one of the drugs administered in the lethal injection process prevents movements, largely for the benefit of the spectators.
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isn't leathal injection better than the chair?
so just what exactly is a good way to die??
once again, there is no 'right to kill' granted to the state. BOTH of those methods are inhumane.
So it's okay that this individual killed your mother, sister, brother, father, friend, or whatever... and doesn't get punishment for it?
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#538472 - 04/26/06 07:17 PM
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i know they are. but i think its gonna stay.
but you argue it out with someone else, i'm going home!
you may be right that it is going to stay.
i am not trying to antagonize you, just saying my piece and hopefully doing a little education at the same time.
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#538473 - 04/26/06 07:19 PM
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I so totally agree with Search and Slick!
Like I said before, if you dont want to be there, then dont put yourself in that position. Its all about freedom of choice!!!!
Like it or not, agree or not, SP, I dont really care, criminals have more rights than we do. Do I have to put "in my opinion" on everything I say? NO.
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