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#573957 - 06/25/06 11:51 PM
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Try this: Imagination Hint: You need the Flash plugin to view.
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#573958 - 06/26/06 01:11 AM
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Very Cool and Trippy!
Thank you!
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#573959 - 06/26/06 02:03 PM
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You're welcome. I have a soft spot for cool Flash doo-dads.
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#573961 - 06/26/06 02:16 PM
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homestar, you do realize that communism is the conservative strawman against moderate social policy, right?
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#573963 - 06/26/06 04:25 PM
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Thanks. It irks me to see people celebrate a man who turned his back on a career of healing to embrace murder instead. History will look upon Marxism as the bane of the 20th Century.
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#573964 - 06/26/06 04:29 PM
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homestar, you do realize that communism is the conservative strawman against moderate social policy, right?
You realize your comment is itself a straw man, right? The fact remains, in terms of human suffering, Marxism is the most terrible scourge released upon humanity in the history of the world.
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#573965 - 06/26/06 04:34 PM
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homestar, you do realize that communism is the conservative strawman against moderate social policy, right?
You realize your comment is itself a straw man, right? The fact remains, in terms of human suffering, Marxism is the most terrible scourge released upon humanity in the history of the world.
how so?
is your purpose behind this anti-che avatar related to general politics or to a certain self-marginalizing BOLer? and what is the purpose?
i miss the charlie chaplin one, too.
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#573966 - 06/26/06 05:42 PM
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So are we trying to say that Che himself is responsible for 100 million deaths? I'd like to see that source, please.
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#573969 - 06/26/06 06:21 PM
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Are you serious? Start with Stalin, think about the rest of the Soviet bloc (even a relatively small country like Romania had many thousands of deaths), then consider other islands of communism (no pun intended), and finally: China.
yes, i am serious. how was my comment actually a straw man? i am not sure the actual relation between the things you mentioned and what i mentioned (moderate social(ist) policy).
i didn't think you associated communism with liberalism. might i mention that communism is not socialism either. might i further mention that i really don't see socialism even being argued in this country in it's pure form. more than likely it is tempering pure capitalism if anything.
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#573971 - 06/26/06 06:32 PM
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yes, i am serious. how was my comment actually a straw man?
I thought you were questioning whether Marxism was actually a scourge; I realize now you were questioning Homestar's comment about your argument being a strawman.
I would say that your comment about communism as a strawman was not pertinent to Homestar's avatar. The avatar is clearly a response to steven1950's Che avatar, and makes no statement about US social or economic policy.
I will say that if you are evaluating US foreign policy, military policy, economic policy, or social policy in the post WWII era through now, it is silly to ignore the threat of communism as a factor in the development of those policies.
For example, the US space program was dramatically different than it would have been without the "competition" from the Soviet space program. Maybe that's a good thing, maybe not. But you can't evaluate the merits of the space program without taking into account the fact that it was developed with a constant eye on what the Soviets were doing, and whether we could do it before them.
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#573972 - 06/26/06 06:34 PM
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Furthermore, I don't think communism is inherently evil or a scourge, but rather, has had some megalomaniacs who have given the basic tenets a bad name.
SP, i think you are confused by the relationship between communism and socialism. think orwell's "the animal farm". orwell was a devout socialist.
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#573974 - 06/26/06 06:45 PM
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yes, i am serious. how was my comment actually a straw man?
I thought you were questioning whether Marxism was actually a scourge; I realize now you were questioning Homestar's comment about your argument being a strawman.
I would say that your comment about communism as a strawman was not pertinent to Homestar's avatar. The avatar is clearly a response to steven1950's Che avatar, and makes no statement about US social or economic policy.
i thought my post at 592288 cleared that up.
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I will say that if you are evaluating US foreign policy, military policy, economic policy, or social policy in the post WWII era through now, it is silly to ignore the threat of communism as a factor in the development of those policies.
is it the threat to BOLers that would warrant this political warning? like i said, if it was to another poster's avatar, some people here marginalize themselves and to "respond" to them simply lends credence to their position imo.
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#573975 - 06/26/06 06:46 PM
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Furthermore, I don't think communism is inherently evil or a scourge, but rather, has had some megalomaniacs who have given the basic tenets a bad name.
SP, i think you are confused by the relationship between communism and socialism. think orwell's "the animal farm". orwell was a devout socialist.
I don't think I am, but anything's possible.
have you read "the animal farm"?
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#573978 - 06/26/06 06:53 PM
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Saw the movie.
there's a movie?! how'd they pull it off? a cartoon?
communism is just tyranny and dictatorship parading around as socialism.
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#573979 - 06/26/06 06:56 PM
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But socialism doesn't equal Marxism, either. (Remember, it was Marxism that got us started on this tangent.)
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#573981 - 06/26/06 07:02 PM
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rainier, believe me, i can't stand che or what he really stood for. nor are his methods commendable or worthy of celebration except in the "let's see if we can argue an extreme to see if we can get reality farther from the pole it is at now" sense. and even then i persoanlly don't like it because that dirty, ineffective politics to me.
i just meant that many of his comments tend to follow the 180 opposite of my NASCAR-like jokes about conservatives and therefore people dismiss his points.
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Thanks... 
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