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#613562 - 09/14/06 08:39 PM
File a SAR ?
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Gainesville, TX USA
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One our our customers has been running his "self-employed" business transactions through his personal savings account. All of his deposits have been cash: $5,700; $5,000; $2,300 and $5,000. I do not suspect structuring because they are weeks apart. However, he appears to be abusing the government system by (a) not paying social security on his workers (b) not paying franchise tax and (c) avoiding income tax reporting. Part of me wants to file a SAR; but the suspicious activities identified under item 35 does not seem to fit this situation. Any thoughts? Also, what does (o) Misuse of Position or Self Dealing represent?
Thanks,
Lisa
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#613563 - 09/14/06 08:47 PM
Re: File a SAR ?
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A few questions to think about - is his business just him or are you sure he actually has employees? Are their debits out of the savings account that would indicate he is buying supplies or paying employees ? Does he have another account (checking) that has deposits but not cash - i.e. he deposits payments by check into the checking account but hides the cash in his savings?
On the other hand, just because he does deposit cash into his savings account does not indicate that he is necessarily avoiding taxes. You could keep all of your self-employment income on hand, never deposit the money, and still be an honest US citizen who pays taxes.
No help I know - but some additional questions / issue to think on.
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#613564 - 09/14/06 09:03 PM
Re: File a SAR ?
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Joined: Apr 2006
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Washington state
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If you want clarification on the SAR categories, this website has an excellent list. Go to 1) Bankers Tools 2) AML/BSA 3) SAR-BOL's Research Guide to SAR 4) Understanding the Suspicious Activity Categories. I used the list a training tool for operations staff.
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#613567 - 09/18/06 05:46 PM
Re: File a SAR ?
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Joined: Nov 2000
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Southern California
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Did you consider that he may have his "business" account at another financial institution? Perhaps the money being deposited to the savings account is him paying himself.
Sounds like some CDD is needed here. Someone needs to sit down with the customer and ask a few questions. Never assume anything. The customer may have a perfectly reasonable explanation for the activity.
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#613568 - 09/18/06 06:07 PM
Re: File a SAR ?
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True, the funds may be legitimate, but by depositing the cash from the business directly into the personal account, the revenue from the business probably isn't being reported accurately, thus making a difference on income and tax reporting. When you file the SAR with the info you have, the government can do further research if it thinks it is worth it.
The customer shoudl be depositing the cash into the business account and then paying himself by check so there is a clear line on the business activities. When I discussed my customer with the OCC last week, the thought from the OCC was, why does the customer have the business account at a different bank? The OCC's thought was that we shoudl have the entire relationship or no relationship in this case (due to the ability to effectively monitor). The OCC did confirm a SAR was the correct action to take and made sure I knew to continually file as long as the activity was allowed to continue.
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#613569 - 09/18/06 06:58 PM
Re: File a SAR ?
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IMO, no one, including a bank examiner, should suggest that a customer must have all accounts with the same bank. There are many reasons why a customer would want to use more than 1 bank.
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#613571 - 09/18/06 09:03 PM
Re: File a SAR ?
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I agree with you Magic City. First of all if this is a sole proprietorship the business and the person are the same in the eyes of the IRS. How do you know the cash going into his savings account is 'business' related? Even if it is, there is nothing to indicate to me that he is 'not paying taxes'. He could very well be filing/paying taxes on everything he should.
As for having all accounts at one bank, I agree that regulators cannot dictate that to a bank. As previously stated there are many reasons to have legitimate multiple bank relationships.
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#613572 - 09/19/06 12:10 AM
Re: File a SAR ?
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Galveston, TX
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"True, the funds may be legitimate, but by depositing the cash from the business directly into the personal account, the revenue from the business probably isn't being reported accurately, thus making a difference on income and tax reporting. When you file the SAR with the info you have, the government can do further research if it thinks it is worth it."
Dip - I concur with the above that we don't have enough information and this statement is pretty bold. The original poster stated that the person was "self-employed" . Being self-employed myself, I do not have a "business account" and run all of my transactions through my personal banking account. Suggesting that practice automatically leads to the assumption of tax evasion or other accounting irregularities is ludicrous. I think you were also dealing with an overzealous examiner unless there were more facts involved than a simple occurrence of a self-employed person depositing cash into a personal account.
If the amount of cash being deposited is not normal for the type of business which the customer operates or if you believe that the customer is structuring to avoid CTR reporting is one thing. The fact that the cash is deposited into a personal account is a moot point.
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