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#634253 - 11/03/06 10:22 PM
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U.S. Web Archive is Said to Reveal a Nuclear Primer
But I thought Iraq didn't have any WMD programs that were a threat? If that's true, how could any information from their records be any help at all to another rogue state?
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#634254 - 11/03/06 10:23 PM
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#634255 - 11/03/06 10:35 PM
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U.S. Web Archive is Said to Reveal a Nuclear Primer
But I thought Iraq didn't have any WMD programs that were a threat? If that's true, how could any information from their records be any help at all to another rogue state?
From Fox News
Report: No Iraq WMDs Made After '91
Thursday, October 07, 2004
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WASHINGTON — The chief U.S. arms inspector in Iraq has found no evidence of weapons of mass destruction (search) production by Saddam Hussein's (search) regime after 1991.
But the final report by Charles Duelfer (search) concluded that, although the weapons stockpiles were destroyed, Saddam’s government was looking to begin a WMD program again.
Click here to read Key Findings Report.
Click here to read Vol. 1.
Click here to read Vol. 2.
Click here to read Vol. 3.
The Bush administration invaded Iraq in March 2003 on the grounds that its WMD programs posed a threat to American national security.
In his report, Duelfer concluded that Saddam's Iraq had no stockpiles of the banned weapons, but he said he found signs of idle programs that Saddam could have revived once international attention waned.
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#634256 - 11/03/06 10:45 PM
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idle programs that Saddam could have revived...
No, No, NO! Bush lied, people died; we only went to war for oil; we only went to war because Bush was trying to get the man who tried to kill his daddy; we only went to war because Haliburton wanted to; we only went to war to help the Republican party; we only went to war for Israel...
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#634257 - 11/03/06 11:28 PM
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What is it?
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#634259 - 11/03/06 11:59 PM
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In his report, Duelfer concluded that Saddam's Iraq had no stockpiles of the banned weapons, but he said he found signs of idle programs that Saddam could have revived once international attention waned.
So, there was no evidence of stockpiled weapons, and no evidence of any active program to create weapons; and our president decided it would be a good idea to publicize documents that could help other nations to build weapons? 
I may be wrong, but I thought the info was released after a FOIA request.
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#634260 - 11/04/06 12:24 AM
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I may be wrong, but I thought the info was released after a FOIA request.
No, as the story said, this was the brainchild of Congressional Republicans.
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#634262 - 11/04/06 08:02 PM
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I may be wrong, but I thought the info was released after a FOIA request.
No, as the story said, this was the brainchild of Congressional Republicans.
Hmm...you mean Republicans wanted nuclear blueprints on the internet? Or, did they maybe want the information that was made available to have this type of thing removed?
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#634264 - 11/06/06 03:39 PM
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I'd like to see where anyone claimed that Iraq had purchased uranium ore from Niger.
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#634265 - 11/06/06 03:39 PM
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This administration cannot be trusted to tell the truth.
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gee, please tell me what administration can be trusted to tell the truth.
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#634266 - 11/06/06 04:21 PM
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Can any politician be trusted to tell the truth? I'm pretty sure being a convincing liar is a job requirement no matter what side of the aisle they sit on.
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#634267 - 11/06/06 05:31 PM
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As I'd understood the story; the portal *was* the brainchild of conservative Republicans. The goal was to encourage research to show, as posted above, evidence of interest in or programs to develop WMDs, to counterbalance the, ah actual lack of physical evidence.
There were millions and millions of pages in Arabic, a dearth of translators and a lot of pressure to get the documents up on the portal. The results were predictable.
The interesting things is, that about a year ago, a group found some pretty sophisticated formulations for weaponized nerve agents, expressed their dismay and the pages in question were taken down. No one, however, took that as a cue to review or control what *else* was on the site.
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#634268 - 11/06/06 06:02 PM
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As I understand, the idea that the public ought to have an accurate picture of what Saddam was up to was the brainchild of conservative Republicans, who also said that any information that would damage US security should not be made public. What is so hard to understand about that? The blame for posting these documents rests with the DNI - or his underlings, if you prefer - not anybody in Congress. That's like blaming individual Congressional representatives for that letter sent after 9/11 to Muhammed Atta approving his visa. It is a mistake of implementation, not policy.
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#634269 - 11/06/06 06:17 PM
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J-man, save your typing, some individuals will never believe anything but pure evil about Republicans.
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#634272 - 11/06/06 06:24 PM
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#634273 - 11/06/06 06:45 PM
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As I understand, the idea that the public ought to have an accurate picture of what Saddam was up to was the brainchild of conservative Republicans, who also said that any information that would damage US security should not be made public. What is so hard to understand about that? The blame for posting these documents rests with the DNI - or his underlings, if you prefer - not anybody in Congress. That's like blaming individual Congressional representatives for that letter sent after 9/11 to Muhammed Atta approving his visa. It is a mistake of implementation, not policy.
The blame lies with Congressman Peter Hoekstra. As chair of the House Intelligence Committee, he grew more and more frustrated that John Negroponte would not declassify information that Hoekstra thought would justify the war in Iraq.
Now...he is blaming Negroponte for posting these items on the Operation Iraqi Freedo document portal. In reality, this was the brainchild of Rep. Peter Hoekstra and Senator Pat Roberts, chair of the Senate Intelligence committee.
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001941.php
http://www2.ljworld.com/blogs/kansas_congress/2006/nov/03/nuclear/
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#634274 - 11/06/06 07:06 PM
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So, where did Hoekstra and Roberts advocate for putting this particular document, or any that would compromise US security, on the internet? Thanks in advance for the link.
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