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#635933 - 11/08/06 09:01 PM Re: Political party info
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If this is going to be Ted Kennedy bashing perhaps someone should start another thread. I'm sure that wasn't what PQ was looking for.
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#635934 - 11/08/06 09:03 PM Re: Political party info
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PQ, here is some information for you about our new Speaker of the House.

PELOSI VOTES

Abortion-
•Top agenda item as speaker: funding life-killing embryonic stem cell research
•Voted YES on embryonic stem cell research (2005)
•Voted NO on Child Custody Protection Act (2006)
•Voted NO on Unborn Victims of Violence Act (2004)
•Voted NO on Human Cloning Prohibition Act (2003)
•Voted AGAINST ban on partial-birth abortion (2003)
•100% NARAL rating

JAMES DOBSON--On abortion, there is not a more pro-abortion politician in Congress. [Pelosi] voted against banning partial-birth abortion at least eight times and has repeatedly opposed the Unborn Victims of Violence Act. Not surprisingly, she gets "perfect" ratings from Planned Parenthood and NARAL Pro-Choice America.



Education
•Voted NO to funding for school voucher program for lower-income families (1997)
•Voted NO to vouchers for DC schools (1998)
•100% voting record with liberal National Education Association



Faith/Values
•Voted NO on Pledge Protection Act to protect Pledge from frivolous lawsuits (2005)
•Voted NO on banning flag desecration (2005)
•Voted NO on allowing school prayer during war on terror (2001)
•Voted NO on equal funding access for faith-based organizations (2001)
•Voted NO to bill promoting responsible fatherhood through grants to state and non-profit orgs (1999)
•SPONSORED bill weakening requirement for voluntary prayer (2001)
•CO-SPONSORED bill strengthening legalization of medical marijuana (2001)
•Voted NO on random drug tests for federal employees (1998)



Healthcare
•SUPPORTED healthcare as “right, not a privilege” in Progressive Caucus Position Paper: “The Progressive Caucus is united in its goal of making health care a right, not a privilege…. All Americans, including the 44 million currently without health insurance, deserve to have the health care they need, regardless of ability to pay.
•Voted NO on private-sector solutions like Medical Savings Accounts (1999)



Immigration
•Voted NO on Border Protection Act (2005)
•Voted NO on REAL ID bill to prevent illegals form obtaining driver’s licenses (2005)
•Voted NO on Secure Fence Act (2006)
•Voted NO denying funding to Sanctuary cities that harbor illegal aliens against U.S. law (2005)
•Voted NO on authorizing state and local authorities to participate in border security (2005)
•Voted NO on military assistance on the border
•RECEIVED a 9% Rating on Grassfire’s Immigration Scorecard



Marriage
•Voted NO on Marriage Protection Amendment to define marriage as one man, own woman (2006)
•Voted NO on 2004 version of Marriage Protection Amendment
•Voted NO on outlawing homosexual adoptions in the District of Columbia (1999)
•Voted NO on Defense of Marriage Act (1996)
•COSPONSOR bill for stricter “hate crimes” laws
JAMES DOBSON: On marriage, [Pelosi] is among the most radically anti-marriage members of Congress, and she works hard for the radical gay agenda



National Security
•Voted NO on authorizing military force in Iraq (2002)
•Voted NO on making Patriot Act permanent (2005)
•Voted NO on resolution affirming U.S. commitment to Iraq without setting an “arbitrary date for withdrawal” (2006)
•Voted NO on resolution approving removal of Saddam Hussein (2004)
•Voted NO on strategic national missile defense as U.S. policy (1999)
•Voted NO on resolution supporting equal access of military recruiters to recruit on college campuses (2005)

JAMES DOBSON:
--She voted to cut intelligence funding both before and after 9/11
--She voted against the $87 billion appropriation for our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, which included funds for body armor
--She voted against the creation of the Homeland Security Department and the reauthorization of the Patriot Act
--She voted against a missile defense system - crucial in light of North Korea's nuclear tests
--She was one of just a few members to vote against prohibiting U.S. citizens and companies from conducting financial transactions with countries identified by the State Department as active sponsors of terrorism.



Second Amendment
•Rated “F” by National Rifle Association
•Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1 day (1999)



Taxes
•Says one of top agenda items as Speaker is rolling back Bush tax cuts to Clinton era levels.
•Voted NO on reducing dividend and capital gains taxes (2005)
•Voted NO on Bush tax cuts -- $958 billion over 10 years (2001)
•Voted NO on eliminating the marriage penalty (2000)
•Voted NO on making the tax cuts permanent (2002)
•Voted NO on making death tax repeal permanent (2005)
•Voted NO on eliminating the death tax (2001)
•Voted NO on making increase in child tax credit permanent (2004)
•Voted NO on $46 billion tax cuts for small businesses (2000)
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#635935 - 11/08/06 09:08 PM Re: Political party info
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PQ, here is some information for you about our new Speaker of the House.

PELOSI VOTES

Abortion-
•Top agenda item as speaker: funding life-killing embryonic stem cell research
•Voted YES on embryonic stem cell research (2005)
•Voted NO on Child Custody Protection Act (2006)
•Voted NO on Unborn Victims of Violence Act (2004)
•Voted NO on Human Cloning Prohibition Act (2003)
•Voted AGAINST ban on partial-birth abortion (2003)
•100% NARAL rating

JAMES DOBSON--On abortion, there is not a more pro-abortion politician in Congress. [Pelosi] voted against banning partial-birth abortion at least eight times and has repeatedly opposed the Unborn Victims of Violence Act. Not surprisingly, she gets "perfect" ratings from Planned Parenthood and NARAL Pro-Choice America.



Education
•Voted NO to funding for school voucher program for lower-income families (1997)
•Voted NO to vouchers for DC schools (1998)
•100% voting record with liberal National Education Association



Faith/Values
•Voted NO on Pledge Protection Act to protect Pledge from frivolous lawsuits (2005)
•Voted NO on banning flag desecration (2005)
•Voted NO on allowing school prayer during war on terror (2001)
•Voted NO on equal funding access for faith-based organizations (2001)
•Voted NO to bill promoting responsible fatherhood through grants to state and non-profit orgs (1999)
•SPONSORED bill weakening requirement for voluntary prayer (2001)
•CO-SPONSORED bill strengthening legalization of medical marijuana (2001)
•Voted NO on random drug tests for federal employees (1998)



Healthcare
•SUPPORTED healthcare as “right, not a privilege” in Progressive Caucus Position Paper: “The Progressive Caucus is united in its goal of making health care a right, not a privilege…. All Americans, including the 44 million currently without health insurance, deserve to have the health care they need, regardless of ability to pay.
•Voted NO on private-sector solutions like Medical Savings Accounts (1999)



Immigration
•Voted NO on Border Protection Act (2005)
•Voted NO on REAL ID bill to prevent illegals form obtaining driver’s licenses (2005)
•Voted NO on Secure Fence Act (2006)
•Voted NO denying funding to Sanctuary cities that harbor illegal aliens against U.S. law (2005)
•Voted NO on authorizing state and local authorities to participate in border security (2005)
•Voted NO on military assistance on the border
•RECEIVED a 9% Rating on Grassfire’s Immigration Scorecard



Marriage
•Voted NO on Marriage Protection Amendment to define marriage as one man, own woman (2006)
•Voted NO on 2004 version of Marriage Protection Amendment
•Voted NO on outlawing homosexual adoptions in the District of Columbia (1999)
•Voted NO on Defense of Marriage Act (1996)
•COSPONSOR bill for stricter “hate crimes” laws
JAMES DOBSON: On marriage, [Pelosi] is among the most radically anti-marriage members of Congress, and she works hard for the radical gay agenda



National Security
•Voted NO on authorizing military force in Iraq (2002)
•Voted NO on making Patriot Act permanent (2005)
•Voted NO on resolution affirming U.S. commitment to Iraq without setting an “arbitrary date for withdrawal” (2006)
•Voted NO on resolution approving removal of Saddam Hussein (2004)
•Voted NO on strategic national missile defense as U.S. policy (1999)
•Voted NO on resolution supporting equal access of military recruiters to recruit on college campuses (2005)

JAMES DOBSON:
--She voted to cut intelligence funding both before and after 9/11
--She voted against the $87 billion appropriation for our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, which included funds for body armor
--She voted against the creation of the Homeland Security Department and the reauthorization of the Patriot Act
--She voted against a missile defense system - crucial in light of North Korea's nuclear tests
--She was one of just a few members to vote against prohibiting U.S. citizens and companies from conducting financial transactions with countries identified by the State Department as active sponsors of terrorism.



Second Amendment
•Rated “F” by National Rifle Association
•Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1 day (1999)



Taxes
•Says one of top agenda items as Speaker is rolling back Bush tax cuts to Clinton era levels.
•Voted NO on reducing dividend and capital gains taxes (2005)
•Voted NO on Bush tax cuts -- $958 billion over 10 years (2001)
•Voted NO on eliminating the marriage penalty (2000)
•Voted NO on making the tax cuts permanent (2002)
•Voted NO on making death tax repeal permanent (2005)
•Voted NO on eliminating the death tax (2001)
•Voted NO on making increase in child tax credit permanent (2004)
•Voted NO on $46 billion tax cuts for small businesses (2000)




Of coruse none of this actually answers the question posed.
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#635936 - 11/08/06 09:10 PM Re: Political party info
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PQ wanted to know what each party stands for. This is a perfect example of what the Democrats stand for.
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#635937 - 11/08/06 09:10 PM Re: Political party info
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Bimmer...the James Dobson you mention in your list of problems with soon to be Speaker Pelosi...would this be the James Dobson of Evangelical Christian fame who just quit his role as advisor to other "famed" Evangelical Christian Ted Haggard? The same James Dobson who believes that in marriage, women have a "divine" obligation to submit to their husband's authority?

Giving PQ information provided by James Dobson in regards to Nancy Pelosi would be like me giving PQ information provided by Hugo Chavez in regards to President Bush.
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#635938 - 11/08/06 09:13 PM Re: Political party info
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Is that ok with you?



it is, but you asked him about mary jo AFTER he explained why he votes for TK.

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#635939 - 11/08/06 09:15 PM Re: Political party info
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You know he killed someone, right?




Who cares?




Ah, the culture of life on the left...

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#635940 - 11/08/06 09:15 PM Re: Political party info
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PQ wanted to know what each party stands for. This is a perfect example of what the Democrats stand for.




No, it's an example of what Nancy Pelosi stands for. Personally, I don't find any of the things you listed shocking or troubling, but not all Democrats vote the same as Speaker Pelosi.
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#635941 - 11/08/06 09:16 PM Re: Political party info
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Is that ok with you?



it is, but you asked him about mary jo AFTER he explained why he votes for TK.




There was no ulterior motive, Ronster, I was just curious as to whether he knew.
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#635942 - 11/08/06 09:18 PM Re: Political party info
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Is that ok with you?



it is, but you asked him about mary jo AFTER he explained why he votes for TK.




There was no ulterior motive, Ronster, I was just curious as to whether he knew.




I find that to be very disingenuous, but to each his/her own.
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#635943 - 11/08/06 09:23 PM Re: Political party info
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Oh good god folks, I should have known better to post an innocent question even remotely related to politics.... . Now that being said, not all of us from Mass are TK fans, some think that he has way overstayed his welcome....

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#635944 - 11/08/06 09:29 PM Re: Political party info
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I agree, PQ-not everyone here is enamored with him. MB Guy does pose a good question-why is this guy held up on such a pedestal? I think it is simply the name, and the fact he has brought in so much federal $ to the state (Big Dig, anyone)???

With his fortune (which isn't what it once was) and his last name, the seat is his until he decides he is finished, regardless of his history. Just one of those things....
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#635945 - 11/08/06 09:31 PM Re: Political party info
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I completely agree sox, it's all because of his last name....

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#635946 - 11/08/06 09:31 PM Re: Political party info
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PQ, I really was just curious if he was that loved in MA since he has been re-elected so many times. Thanks.

Now, back to topic. I think the original poster should research each party exhaustively (including Libertarian) and determine which of them lines up best with their views and beliefs and go from there.
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#635947 - 11/08/06 09:35 PM Re: Political party info
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MB, I am the original poster and that's what I was looking for was info about each party, what thier views/beliefs are, etc.

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#635948 - 11/08/06 09:38 PM Re: Political party info
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Oh good god folks, I should have known better to post an innocent question even remotely related to politics.... . Now that being said, not all of us from Mass are TK fans, some think that he has way overstayed his welcome....




I still ask if you haven't learned everything you need to know about politics and the politcal parties right here. I think this discussion is aan excellent example of the current level of political discourse.

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#635949 - 11/08/06 09:40 PM Re: Political party info
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Maybe check out this site below. I just searched for non-partisan political party research and I don't know what is behind it, but it looked like it had a lot of links for research. Best of luck.

http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm
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#635950 - 11/09/06 02:17 AM Re: Political party info
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Try Google. Pose your question several different ways. Try wahts is a democrat or what is a republican. Go from there.

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#635951 - 11/09/06 12:49 PM Re: Political party info
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Try Google. Pose your question several different ways. Try wahts is a democrat or what is a republican. Go from there.




Why did you do a type-o on the Democrat question? So there would not be any hits?

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