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#65421 - 03/05/03 03:39 PM latest 314 request
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I have received two e-mails, one last night at 8 pm and one this morning at 8 am regarding a new FINCEN 314 request. The first says one of three, the second says two of three. I have not received anything that says three of three. Am I alone in not getting this or have others experienced the same thing? HELP--this stuff is really a nuisance.....

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#65422 - 03/05/03 03:44 PM Re: latest 314 request
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We've received the expedite and 1 of 3.

More on this is at this thread, same topic.
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#65423 - 03/05/03 03:47 PM Re: latest 314 request
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Haven't received number two of three yet. Still waiting . . .
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#65424 - 03/05/03 03:49 PM Re: latest 314 request
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Was I just dreaming, or did they promise that they wouldn't trickle them to us every few days like before? I've received the expedite and one of three. I'm just thankful we bit the bullet and put all our CC's in a database the last time these came in.
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#65425 - 03/05/03 03:56 PM Re: latest 314 request
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I'm just thankful we bit the bullet and put all our CC's in a database the last time these came in.



That's the same approach I took, as our MI logs are the only searchable area that cannot be found through our CIF. Loans, deposits, wires, trusts, and safe deposit boxes all require the transactor to be on our system. All in all, a request the size of this morning's '1 of 3' takes me less than an hour to search and document.

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#65426 - 03/05/03 04:14 PM Re: latest 314 request
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In reply to "didn't they promise they wouldn't trickle them to us every few days".........THEY LIED!! Doesn't suprise me much....even though I am still mad.

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#65427 - 03/05/03 04:35 PM Re: latest 314 request
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FOUL!!!! I am looking back and really studying some of this (now that HMDA-CRA dust has settled) and I am wondering if anyone else noticed that the dates we get them and the dates they are due will not always give us 10 days; notwithstanding the expedite requests. The first request was received by us on 2-21, 2 weeks would be 3-7; but the form has a due date of 3-4. The next one comes in 3-4 and is due 3-6. Now I have 2 sets today (3-5), due 3-18.

GRRRRRR, it appears that they are setting their dates without any consideration as to when they actually email them or when we might be receiving them. And, have no conception of what the different time zones do to these. I would bet that it also depends on how far down you are on their email lists as to how long it takes to actually receive it.
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#65428 - 03/05/03 04:40 PM Re: latest 314 request
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2 of 3 just in. Oh joy.

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#65429 - 03/05/03 04:47 PM Re: latest 314 request
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Our security officer normally handles these but she is out on PTO and a newbie back up is receiving these. The back up called me and said that it looks like one of the requests only applies to institutions in Colorado. I haven't seen it yet. For those of you who are receiving these, is this true?
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#65430 - 03/05/03 04:50 PM Re: latest 314 request
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CWilliams, that is my understanding. "...one of the requests only applies to institutions in Colorado..."
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#65431 - 03/05/03 05:13 PM Re: latest 314 request
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I am very disappointed in the presentation of the data and response expectations by FinCEN. My Systems Dept has informed me that because we are receiving the data in a Word format, we cannot automate our systems search--so everything is manual. I was in the branches performing a compliance test yesterday and now I apparently have one day to verify compliance on an expedited search. Sure--11 banks, an insurance company, securities broker, credit card dept., leasing, mortgage banking dept, investments, trust.....no problem, man!
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#65432 - 03/05/03 05:26 PM Re: latest 314 request
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I wonder why I got 4 requests today plus the one yesterday, has anyone else gotten 4?

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#65433 - 03/05/03 05:38 PM Re: latest 314 request
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Do we have to send these requests to our insurance subsidiaries?

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#65434 - 03/05/03 05:54 PM Re: latest 314 request
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I wonder why I got 4 requests today plus the one yesterday, has anyone else gotten 4?




I just received two of three requests. Guess one more is coming today! What joy

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#65435 - 03/05/03 06:10 PM Re: latest 314 request
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I wonder why I got 4 requests today plus the one yesterday, has anyone else gotten 4?



Yesterday's request was the Expidite request, which contained one attachment.
The first one today (1 of 3) contained 4 attachments
2 of 3 contained 5 attachments.

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#65436 - 03/05/03 06:11 PM Re: latest 314 request
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CWilliams, that is my understanding. "...one of the requests only applies to institutions in Colorado..."




Which request is only for Colorado? I have not received the two and three yet.

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#65437 - 03/05/03 06:24 PM Re: latest 314 request
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Brenda, you should be able to convert from Word to excel if that will help, by copying and pasting into an excel worksheet.
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#65438 - 03/05/03 06:26 PM Re: latest 314 request
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I suggested that. Didn't work.
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#65439 - 03/05/03 06:41 PM Re: latest 314 request
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I've received one of three and two of three ...still waiting on three of three.
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#65440 - 03/05/03 06:44 PM Re: latest 314 request
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Too add to this confusion - we just received 3 different FAXes to FAX numbers we never communicated to FinCEN. We received a 21 page FAX, a 7 page FAX, and a 6 page FAX with requests from FINCen for U.S. Customs and FBI.

I have no idea if there are any other FAXes that have been sent to unsuspecting departments that would have NO IDEA what these things are! Are these legimate requests? Why FAXes, and why to FAXes that FINCen has never known about? Why 34 pages of names in addition to the other 2 e-mails and that "Expedited Request?"

GEEZ - What do they expect????
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#65441 - 03/05/03 06:49 PM Re: latest 314 request
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FOUL!!!! I am looking back and really studying some of this (now that HMDA-CRA dust has settled) and I am wondering if anyone else noticed that the dates we get them and the dates they are due will not always give us 10 days; notwithstanding the expedite requests. The first request was received by us on 2-21, 2 weeks would be 3-7; but the form has a due date of 3-4. The next one comes in 3-4 and is due 3-6. Now I have 2 sets today (3-5), due 3-18.

GRRRRRR, it appears that they are setting their dates without any consideration as to when they actually email them or when we might be receiving them. And, have no conception of what the different time zones do to these. I would bet that it also depends on how far down you are on their email lists as to how long it takes to actually receive it.




Or how far down you are on the internal email list ...just makes you wanna go "huh?"
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#65442 - 03/05/03 07:29 PM Re: latest 314 request
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just received #2 of 3 (within last 10 minutes!) hope this helps. You'd think we'd all thes at the same time, or at least the same dates!!

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#65443 - 03/05/03 07:32 PM Re: latest 314 request
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We received a 21 page FAX, a 7 page FAX, and a 6 page FAX with requests from FINCen for U.S. Customs and FBI.

Why FAXes, ...




They read that you have a really cruddy monitor?
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#65444 - 03/05/03 07:34 PM Re: latest 314 request
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Are y'all getting multiple copies of the same request? We got "First of three" three times and we've not received two or three of three.

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#65445 - 03/05/03 07:39 PM Re: latest 314 request
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They read that you have a really cruddy monitor?



Hee-hee! Yeah - except that the FAXes are being sent to an office about 18 miles from where I am. Perhaps they just want me to keep spending $2.10 a gallon on gas?
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