Now that is well said.

I'm not saying that dissenters are biased.
I'm saying dissenters who have stated that they'ved changed reports for political reasons and ones who speak at forums funded by "opponents" of global warming should be taken with a grain of salut.
Just like anything Al Gore says about it to a group like MoveOn should be taken with a grain of salt.

We need science. Pro and con.
But this is quickly turning into a Monkey-Scopes Trial on both sides.

Very logical NEO, but there will always be a possibility that you are dead wrong and more than likely, I'll be the one at the gate. Something to think about.

If you're at the Gate...
I'll take my options "down south"...

Wish I could find it - very interesting - a little island in Denmark that's completely fossel fuel-free. And their main industry is farming. If you're interested in environmental issues it's worth your while. (I'll keep looking)

Uh oh, farming is causing global warming! Unless of course they are vegetarians who don't use any pesticides or fertilizers!

OK, so what did Al Gore have to say today before Congress? Anybody get a report yet?

Gore Urges Fast Action on Global Warming

wow, the headline says it all, I don't even need to use the link

BF - I know you're making a joke, but -
One of the things they farm is hay, which they boil to create energy. The amount of CO2 released by the process is actually less than the amount used by the crop.

There are dairy farms, and I don't remember the methane issue being addressed. But the cows are milked by machines run on energy from the hay and wind farms.

(I'll find it...)

You know, call me a moron if you want, but I thank God when my car starts in the morning, I thank God that I have food on my plate, I thank God that we have warm and cold, and I thank God I live in this country.

And you know, I am thinking that trip "south" isn't going to be much fun.

MB:

I find nothing wrong with any of those.
But there are some things that are strictly human doing and human intervention.
And I'm only going south if _X_ is at the gates waiting for me...lol

Of course there are things that are human doing and intervention. That's called free will. Also, are you surprised that our Creator, who crafted us in His image, meant more than 2 arms, 2 legs, 10 fingers, 10 toes, etc. what you SEE and more about creating us to be creators ourselves?

English my friend.
It's been a long day and your babble is confusing me.

When God created man in His image, it was not just about what appearance. It is about having the intellect to use the gifts God gave us to create things. It is about having free will.

I seriously doubt you will ever meet a Christian that says everything happens because God said it should, but rather, that we are His agents of change, and are perfectly capable of failing ourselves and Him.

thank you.
much clearer.

anybody bothered by senator inhofe challenging Gore to take this pledge?

"As a believer:
· that human-caused global warming is a moral, ethical, and spiritual issue affecting our survival;

· that home energy use is a key component of overall energy use;

· that reducing my fossil fuel-based home energy usage will lead to lower greenhouse gas emissions; and

· that leaders on moral issues should lead by example;

I pledge to consume no more energy for use in my residence than the average American household by March 21, 2008.”

in Gore's defense, i think he will reduce his energy use eventually, but right now he needs to use his influence to spread the news and get the word out so he's going to use more energy to get that done. that's ok because the long term result will be positive. we should all plan our own carbon footprint reduction. i have moved closer to work, take public transit, quit eating meat in november 2006, and have replaced all my light bulbs. my 2001 mazda is for sale. i feel better about my impact on the planet. but now i'm concerned that the bank i work for has a lot of energy and industrial loans with customers who are probably not helping this crisis at all so i'm not sure employment-wise what is the responsible thing for me to do.

Come on, he doesn't need to use more energy to get the word out. Do his press conferences, etc. use HIS energy? NO. They use the media's. They don't come into play. His work is done in an office. Not counted.

OK...so...while many on the right view Fmr. VP Al Gore as a fear monger, hypocrite, and alarmist...what about Czech President Vaclav Klaus?



Czech leader Klaus fights global warming "religion"

What's hypocritical about Klaus?

I don't know much about the guy, but he's right about the Kyoto Protocal setting targets without any concept of the costs.

By the way, maybe we should trust Al Gore. After all, he DID "invent the internets".......

Nothing...but my point is he's as radical "anti-Al Gore's stance" as Gore is radical in his stance.

He invented the one internet.
It was President Bush who claimed there was more than one: "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft."
Top 10 Bushisms

Sorry, maybe he only "invented" one internet, but the FACTS are he had little to nothing to do with the internet birth and revolution.

Al Gore has a history of blowing things out of proportion and flat out lying. So why is it that he is considered to be such an "authority" on global warming?

I don't know...same reason why many view the Republicans as the "authority" on morality?

Most people are clueless.