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#720269 - 04/23/07 05:59 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Sound Tactic
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not knowing anything? how is trying to evaluate contingencies not knowing anything? in iraq, lots of people disagreed with both the rationale for the war and the execution. they were told "thanks for playing, but you're fired."

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#720337 - 04/23/07 07:12 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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Ron, you might have misunderstood my post, but if you re-read it, it might make more sense. I did not say you didn't know anything. I said, if you take a stance, and had ever actually defended a position, you might get criticized and be told you didn't know anything. Which is what you try to avoid.
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#720344 - 04/23/07 07:18 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Sound Tactic
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some guy, i am not the person in this world who is making these decisions. but i do know that lots of people want to let others know "how it is" and so i play devil's advocate a lot. i'm simply trying to get people to think rather than react and pick sides. i certainly don't know enough about the dynamics of the middle east to really opine. but i do know logic and i can be contrarian with others' points because they try to act like they have it all figured out. sorry if you don't like that.

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#720349 - 04/23/07 07:22 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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It's not that I don't like it, but I don't see you being contrarian in anything. I see you as often putting a few points out there, and then trying to argue something that has little to no bearing on the situation.

What would you do? Please enlighten us. Because if your just going to criticize another persons decisions, then there must be a better one, right? Is what you are suggesting to just let Iran do what they want? Because that is what I read.
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#720353 - 04/23/07 07:24 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Sound Tactic
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how is picking on one course of action the same as saying that i know the alternative?

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Is what you are suggesting to just let Iran do what they want? Because that is what I read.

maybe you should heed your own advice and read what i write. don't read into it or read what isn't there.

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#720355 - 04/23/07 07:27 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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OK, I ask again Ron, are you suggesting we do nothing?

What did I read into. I guess I just don't follow your argument. J, wants to make a decision and you just want to criticize it. OMG nevermind, I get it. Your a democrat.
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#720356 - 04/23/07 07:27 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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then trying to argue something that has little to no bearing on the situation.

for instance?

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#720363 - 04/23/07 07:30 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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then trying to argue something that has little to no bearing on the situation.

for instance?


Oh god Ron, are you saying that ...... nevermind. We have had this conversation before and I shown you a million times. Then, you sit there and try to argue semantics.

So, Ron, whats our plan on Iran?

Lets sit here, and do nothing right? It should just go away on its own.
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#720364 - 04/23/07 07:31 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Sound Tactic
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here is one example Ron:

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no it's not!

you keep using the word "appease". i've simply said to turn up the heat without making them go into turtle-mode. if it gets too far along, then we can bomb them to your heart's content.


and that one was easy
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#720365 - 04/23/07 07:31 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Sound Tactic
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OK, I ask again Ron, are you suggesting we do nothing?

no.

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What did I read into.

see above question that i quoted.
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I guess I just don't follow your argument.

that's what i said
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J, wants to make a decision and you just want to criticize it.

well, like i said, people were criticizing the iraq war on a number of fronts and that criticism was quashed. they want to turn off the spigut for gas and i simply warned that we may as well bomb them while we're at it because that how they would likely construe such a sanction.

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OMG nevermind, I get it. Your a democrat.

thanks _X_.

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#720373 - 04/23/07 07:36 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Sound Tactic
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here is one example Ron:

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no it's not!

you keep using the word "appease". i've simply said to turn up the heat without making them go into turtle-mode. if it gets too far along, then we can bomb them to your heart's content.


and that one was easy

that was an easy what, shemp-o?

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#720377 - 04/23/07 07:37 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Sound Tactic
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Then, you sit there and try to argue semantics.

i'm sorry that some stuff goes over your head.

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#720457 - 04/23/07 08:59 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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Then, you sit there and try to argue semantics.

i'm sorry that some stuff goes over your head.


i'm starting to believe that you do not take a position, or argue semantics because, its truly over your head. that, or you may be fundementally incapable.

*sorry ron, but I made no attack at you, if your going to attack me i'm going to call you out. come up with some support for any one of your fifteen million arguments.

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#720467 - 04/23/07 09:05 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Sound Tactic
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gotcha, shemp. gotcha.

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#720518 - 04/24/07 01:59 AM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070423/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_us

j, give me your best admiral ahkbar impression.

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#720522 - 04/24/07 02:28 AM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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Are you actually posting this in sympathy with this maniac?

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#720561 - 04/24/07 12:41 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Jokerman
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j, what famous line did admiral ahkbar say?

ps: and not the "our ships can't repel fire of that magnitude" line.
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#720584 - 04/24/07 01:09 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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It's a ............

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#720632 - 04/24/07 02:13 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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I know the line. I note, coincidentally, that the Admiral's first name is not "Allahu".

The question I have is, why would you mock my concern about the issue, throwing in, in effect, with a maniac?

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#720651 - 04/24/07 02:24 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Jokerman
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Funny thing about Admiral Ackabar and his crew defeated and destroyed the Death Star, one Super Star Destroy and nearly the entire Empirial Navy in one swoop.
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#720673 - 04/24/07 02:38 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Jokerman
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The question I have is, why would you mock my concern about the issue, throwing in, in effect, with a maniac?

well, he DOES want to negotiate but you just want to beat your shoe on the table because we have to do it on OUR terms. why can we try to thaw the ice at all?

i understand the cynicism, but having talks doesn't mean that them having nukes is all of a sudden an option.

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#720675 - 04/24/07 02:40 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Sound Tactic
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Funny thing about Admiral Ackabar and his crew defeated and destroyed the Death Star, one Super Star Destroy and nearly the entire Empirial Navy in one swoop.

i think han, the force and some crack flying by billie dee williams had a lot to do with that.

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#720676 - 04/24/07 02:41 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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The question I have is, why would you mock my concern about the issue, throwing in, in effect, with a maniac?

well, he DOES want to negotiate


Oh...ok, then. Let's legitimize him the way Pelosi did with Assad Jr., and get nothing for it, just like she did. Good idea.

I mean, it's crazy to require that they at least stop building their bomb, first.

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#720687 - 04/24/07 02:47 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Jokerman
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pelosi is not a head of state.

like i said, what's wrong with at least trying to thaw the ice a little? it doesn't mean that we are assenting to them having nukes.

also, perhaps if we recognized an actual LEGITIMATE head of state instead of acting like the perceived imperialists they claim us to be, maybe it could go somewhere.

but *sigh* we know that you feel like admiral ahkbar felt. (should i point out that it worked out for the good admiral despite his skepticism, too?)

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#720720 - 04/24/07 03:06 PM Re: It All May Have Backfired on Iran Hated By Some
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Are you actually using a sci fi movie to justify foreign policy?

Should I use Star Trek examples to prove you wrong?

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