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#73855 - 04/15/03 11:19 PM
Something new from the Nigerians?
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I just got the following message. It looks like a new way to fish for suckers, but I don't see the hook, yet. Has anyone seen what follows this initial message? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` GOOD DAY, I'LL LIKE TO INFORM YOU THAT, I'LL LIKE TO ORDER FOR SOME LARGE FORM OF BIBLES, AS STATED BELOW. Ultra Trim Bible: King James Version (KJV), burgundy bonded leather with snap flap THIS I WANT 40 OF IT. WITH 50 Franklin Electronic Bible:(KJV).
AND I HOPE ALL THIS INFORMATION INCLUDED WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU.AND THE GOODS WILL BE SHIPPED TO THIS ADDRESS BELOW VIA DHL OR UPS. NAME:TUNDE OLOKO ADDRESS: 95 LEWIS STREET CITY: LAGOS ISLAND STATE: LAGOS COUNTRY: NIGERIA ZIPCODE: 23401 TEL:234-8023525478 HAVE A NICE DAY AND GOD BLESS MR.OLOKO.
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#73856 - 04/16/03 12:02 AM
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Anonymous
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Strange. Do you by any chance sell bibles? Do they expect that you would contact them regarding their request to purchase, then turn it into a regular overpayment scam?
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#73859 - 04/16/03 02:12 AM
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Having dealt with several Nigerian scams lately I would say that they are trying to figure a way to get you a cashiers check. My guess would be that you would get it "accidently" and they would ask you to wire it back. About a half dozen customers have brought us in correspondence from these people and they are extremely clever, don't let their broken english and poor grammar fool you.
BTW just as an update, the last counterfeit cashiers check that we saw had "Matured CD #*******" on the remitter line. Talk about throwing us a curve, now it just looks like the customer redeemed a CD.
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#73861 - 04/16/03 10:21 AM
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I hadn't considered responding. What kind of response would make sense & would likely get me to the second step in the scam?
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#73862 - 04/16/03 01:18 PM
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Richard, I got the same e-mail yesterday. I agree with the concensus opinion that this is a variation on the phony cashiers check scam. I figured they picked me up from my membership on a couple of Christian-based discussion boards and figure any good Christian would go out of his/her way to help someone with a need for Bibles.
I like the idea of everyone just sending a Bible to the posted address. Of course, then they'd probably just come up with some type of scam to sell the Bibles.
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#73864 - 04/16/03 01:33 PM
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I hadn't considered responding. What kind of response would make sense & would likely get me to the second step in the scam?
Just a guess- I think playing along with him would work. Perhaps you could ask what his method of payment will be for the bibles?
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#73866 - 04/16/03 01:57 PM
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When an email is received that is one of these scams, are we suppose to forward the email to someone? Thanks for your help. Our bank received one today.
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#73867 - 04/16/03 02:43 PM
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You are supposed to send them to the Secret Service. When an employee of ours was receiveing these emails on a regular basis, I talked to someone in their Financial Crimes Division at 202-406-5850. That individual said to send him a copy of the message received from the Nigerian, by e-mailing it to: 419.fcd@usss.treas.gov He said that no cover letter or other information was necessary. He also said that if no funds were actually lost as a result of the Nigerian email message that it was not necessary to file a SAR. He also said that probably nothing would ever come of reporting them to the authorities because there are thousands of these scams floating around as emails, faxes, letters, etc. and that unless someone has lost a substantial sum of money, there would be no followup investigation.
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#73869 - 04/16/03 03:53 PM
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I would skip the SAR unless someone was foolish enough to lose money. FinCEN already has a problem with SAR overload & doesn't need more of this kind of garbage clogging the works.
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#73871 - 04/17/03 01:22 AM
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My guess is when you respond that you don't sell any of the stuff they ask for, they are going to ask you be so kind to help them out, and purchase the products, which seem innocuous, for them.
They have a name and the means to develop a re-pore to scam someone in to accepting their cashiers check with a little stipend for yourself.
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#73872 - 04/17/03 06:06 PM
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We get quite a few of these email scam letters in weekly, now twice one of our employees has actually been personally addressed. I just forward the email (fax) to US Secret Service
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#73875 - 04/21/03 01:25 PM
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Do they speak Nigerian in Nigeria? I'll bet the Gideons have a Bible in their language. This fellow really needs to read one.
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#73876 - 04/23/03 08:51 PM
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I hate to beat a dead horse but....
I have seen so many of these it's not funny but it has always been faxed or emailed. Until yesterday, I have never seen one come through mail. AND this one was actually post marked from South Africa.
Have I been just been oblivious OR has anyone else else actually seen one thru the mail from Africa?
Just curious.
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#73877 - 04/23/03 09:11 PM
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To satisfy your curiosity (and ours), why don't you direct any questions you have about this to Wycliffe Bible Translators. They do translate into Nigerian. Maybe they can tell you what kind of fraud this surely is. Nigeria Bible Translation Trust PO Box 790, Old Airport Road Jos, Plateau State NIGERIA, AFRICA Email: Jos_NBTT@wycliffe.org
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#73879 - 05/13/03 01:18 PM
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Just saw an ad that NBC will run a feature on the Nightly News about Nigerian Scams tonight
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