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#746452 - 06/05/07 02:28 PM Dr. Death
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http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN3123182820070601?feedType=RSS


So how does everyone feel about the comments Dr. Death has made about assisted suicide and the fact that he would do it again?

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#746456 - 06/05/07 02:30 PM Re: Dr. Death anon2006
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I say amen!!! Why is that we treat our dying pets with more dignity than our dying relatives?

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#746459 - 06/05/07 02:31 PM Re: Dr. Death anon2006
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I think that if anyone is surprised that he said he would do it again, they need to wake up. Of course he is going to do it again. right, wrong, or indifferent, it's what he believes in.

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#746465 - 06/05/07 02:35 PM Re: Dr. Death Comp Guy No More
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Originally Posted By: Comp Guy
I say amen!!! Why is that we treat our dying pets with more dignity than our dying relatives?

i'd say it's more that individuals can't treat themselves to the same dignity that they afforded their dying pets.

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#746466 - 06/05/07 02:35 PM Re: Dr. Death Comp Guy No More
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Originally Posted By: Comp Guy
I say amen!!! Why is that we treat our dying pets with more dignity than our dying relatives?


I agree 100%!
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#746470 - 06/05/07 02:36 PM Re: Dr. Death Sandy Beech
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I felt he was wrongfully imprisoned in the first place. If people are suffering, they should be able to choose. Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life?

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#746472 - 06/05/07 02:36 PM Re: Dr. Death anon2006
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life?

the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong.

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#746477 - 06/05/07 02:38 PM Re: Dr. Death anon2006
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Let's put it this way...
I have an Uncle who's body is failing him. Decades of kidney dialysis has eaten away at his body.
If he decides to stop the treatment, he will die. He knows that will happen. BUT he has the right to make THAT decision.

How is that different from assisted suicide?

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#746479 - 06/05/07 02:39 PM Re: Dr. Death Imagine
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there is a small difference technically but not philosophically imo.

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#746485 - 06/05/07 02:41 PM Re: Dr. Death Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life?

the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong.


But there is separation of church and state

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#746487 - 06/05/07 02:41 PM Re: Dr. Death Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life?

the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong.


oh snap!

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#746488 - 06/05/07 02:41 PM Re: Dr. Death Imagine
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My grandfather had a living will, he choose not to stay on machines that could save hime from dying. It was HIS choice and I see nothing wrong with it, hard to watch someone starve to death but again his choice
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#746489 - 06/05/07 02:43 PM Re: Dr. Death Bailey.
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Originally Posted By: Bailey.
Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life?

the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong.


oh snap!


i was wondering how long it would take to bring God/the bible into this discussion.

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#746491 - 06/05/07 02:45 PM Re: Dr. Death Comp Guy No More
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Originally Posted By: Comp Guy
Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life?

the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong.


But there is separation of church and state


There is?? I thought that was done away with as unconstitutional in the last few years??
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#746493 - 06/05/07 02:47 PM Re: Dr. Death Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life?

the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong.


Ok...but that's the bible and yes, people that follow the bible wouldnt take their own lives. The bible does not decide whether assisted suicide should be a crime so I dont really understand your point.....

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#746496 - 06/05/07 02:48 PM Re: Dr. Death anon2006
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He was being sarcastic, QB, hence the "obliquely"...
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#746499 - 06/05/07 02:49 PM Re: Dr. Death anon2006
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Oh - hold up....Could this be solved by Obama/Clinton 08?

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#746500 - 06/05/07 02:49 PM Re: Dr. Death anon2006
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I know Ron folks...
He's being sarcastic...

That is just the argument you'll get from the Theocrats who believe assisted suicide is wrong...

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#746501 - 06/05/07 02:49 PM Re: Dr. Death Comp Guy No More
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But there is separation of church and state

of course there is.

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#746505 - 06/05/07 02:51 PM Re: Dr. Death Sandy Beech
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I was wondering how long it would take to bring God/the bible into this discussion

really? what is the motivation for people who oppose doctor-assisted suicide? an entire side of the argument is grounded in the bible/God.

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#746507 - 06/05/07 02:53 PM Re: Dr. Death anon2006
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The bible does not decide whether assisted suicide should be a crime so I dont really understand your point.....

because people who feel that way want to make it so those in that position can even decide for themselves.

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#746512 - 06/05/07 02:56 PM Re: Dr. Death Imagine
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QB, you beat me to it...

Years ago, my FIL had a massive stroke, no brain wave activity at all, machine was breathing for him. Doctors said we could leave him on that, possibly for years, and expect less than a .00000001% chance of recovery, basically in a state of suspended animation. Family made the decision to turn off the machine (which the hospital required us to do, they would not turn it off). He passed within minutes. Let me tell you, not a fun decision, not a fun time in our lives, but we did what we thought was correct.

Now, I know there is a difference between us making the decision for him (he clearly couldn't) and someone who is terminal making their own decision and receiving assistance from the doctor. ZBut my take is if you are legally of sound mind, you should be able to make this decision, if certain medical requirements are met (non-treatable disease, etc).
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#746517 - 06/05/07 02:58 PM Re: Dr. Death Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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I was wondering how long it would take to bring God/the bible into this discussion

really? what is the motivation for people who oppose doctor-assisted suicide? an entire side of the argument is grounded in the bible/God.


i didn't say whether i agreed or not. i'm remaining switzerland in this discussion. i was just commenting on how long it took to bring in god.

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#746526 - 06/05/07 03:05 PM Re: Dr. Death Sandy Beech
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i'm remaining switzerland in this discussion.

switzerland is SO five minutes ago. vermont is the new switzerland.

http://www.vtcommons.org/

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#746530 - 06/05/07 03:09 PM Re: Dr. Death Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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I was wondering how long it would take to bring God/the bible into this discussion

really? what is the motivation for people who oppose doctor-assisted suicide? an entire side of the argument is grounded in the bible/God.


Ron, if people who opposed assisted suicide based their belief on a Platonic (as in Greek philospher Plato) that all life has value and should be preserved at all cost, would you hold that belief in the same contempt?

What if it was based on academic studies that demonstrated a correlation between patients who chose assisted suicide and higher divorce rates in families left behind?

Would you still scorn that belief?

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