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#785907 - 07/30/07 08:43 PM PMI Automatic Termination
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Since HOPA does not appear to define what 'current' means when determining if a borrower qualifies for automatic termination, can termination be denied if there are still outstanding late fees?

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#786072 - 07/31/07 01:04 AM Re: PMI Automatic Termination hslaw
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While it is not defined in the regulation, a borrower is not normally considered "past due" due to late charges. I wouldn't push the issue for a few bucks.
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#1092581 - 12/05/08 04:34 PM Re: PMI Automatic Termination rlcarey
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We have a borrower that has almost $1000 in late charges. Would you still consider this a "few bucks"?

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#1092882 - 12/05/08 08:54 PM Re: PMI Automatic Termination biz
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If they are current on their scheduled payment amount, you should terminate the insurance. Accrued late fees are an area you probably don't want to have to defend yourself against as a justification for "not current".
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#1094193 - 12/09/08 05:21 PM Re: PMI Automatic Termination ahanna
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I disagree.

The act states "(1) on the termination date if, on that date, the mortgagor is current on the payments required by the terms of the residential mortgage transaction;"

Late fees are required payments; therefore, we do not terminate PMI until late fees are resolved.

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#1094410 - 12/09/08 08:04 PM Re: PMI Automatic Termination Loynograd
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In my opinion, I think that is a potential UDAP violation and I would be very careful.
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#1094636 - 12/10/08 03:56 AM Re: PMI Automatic Termination ahanna
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Late fees are required payments;


You better read your contract very very carefully. I will bet the terms of the residential mortgage transaction only requires P&I payments and then states that a late charge may be "assessed" if the P&I payment is X number days late. Accrued and unpaid late charges do not put the loan in a past due status.
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