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#865832 - 12/04/07 05:58 PM
Does the U.S. tolerate anti-Muslim speech?
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An interesting conversation, especially since there is a fury over the 'anti-Christian' theme of the book, and now film, The Golden Compass. Perhaps there is a double standard in America as to what religion one can bash and get away with the bashing. Does the U.S. tolerate anti-Muslim speech?http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/Just for reference, here is the text of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. While I do not agree with Mr. Savage, it is his Constitutional right to make these kind of comments. The problem is, and while I do not believe we are there yet, when individuals in power are warped by lessons of fear and hatred and want to prohibit the free exercise of the Islamic religion. As I said, that has not happened yet; but I'd be willing to bet that there are at least a few persons in power, as well as some of us here on BOL, who would jump at the chance to 'outlaw' the Islamic religion here in the US.
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#865850 - 12/04/07 06:05 PM
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#865863 - 12/04/07 06:11 PM
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Can I have some of what you're smoking? ::hands MB a Marlboro Ultra Light:: Now, how about we discuss this?
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#865893 - 12/04/07 06:24 PM
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As I said, that has not happened yet; but I'd be willing to bet that there are at least a few persons in power, as well as some of us here on BOL, who would jump at the chance to 'outlaw' the Islamic religion here in the US. I hope you're wrong about those of us on BOL. I for one, would never jump at such a chance. The stupidity of such a move would beyond the pale. (Sorry Pale Rider.) As Dan Rather might say... It would be like trying to keep ice cream frozen on a hot summer day. What I think is more telling, is the fact that you even think that some folks on BOL would be in favor of such a ban. I think it says more about you than it does about anything else.
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#866439 - 12/05/07 02:03 PM
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Frank - trying to pick a fight? I've not seen anyone on BOL advocate the outlawing of any religion. I'd like you to post some links that prove your point. I didn't find any in my search.
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#866567 - 12/05/07 03:37 PM
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You know, I truly believe that it's totally not about outlawing a religion. Almost everyone (there are exceptions to everything) in the US just wants to live their lives in freedom and practice whatever religion they want. You cannot legislate against a religion in a free country, obviously.
I am sure the BOLLLOI will disagree with me for some reason....
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#866575 - 12/05/07 03:45 PM
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Grumpy, maybe I am trying to pick a fight. And maybe you'll post a week from now apologizing (again) for trying to pick fights.
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#866605 - 12/05/07 04:00 PM
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#866610 - 12/05/07 04:02 PM
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I wouldn't want any religion outlawed. If I want freedom to practice mine, you should be free to practice yours.
Even if mine disagrees with yours, we should have the right to disagree.
Bombing and shooting each other over it, well, that's another matter!
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#866641 - 12/05/07 04:21 PM
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I said, based on reading some posts, that I'd bet some folks would jump at the chance. pretty liberal interpretation on your part to come to that conclusion, at least from the thread you use as a poitn of reference. We already have one Ron here, do yourself (and us) a favor and don't become another one
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#866714 - 12/05/07 05:03 PM
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AG, I couldn't agree more.
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#866725 - 12/05/07 05:08 PM
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Frank - isn't the last repsonse counter to the new you that you talked about in the counch?
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#866729 - 12/05/07 05:11 PM
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Frank - isn't the last repsonse counter to the new you that you talked about in the counch? Nope. The new me would let it bother me. But, heck if I can entertain the people around here and give them something to talk about in their PMs or give them something to read here in the Cooler, then I feel I am being productive and actually helping someone out! LOLoad. Yes, I know that is crazy and irrational. BUT, heck crazy and irrational is the operating procedure in the Cooler these days. So, when in Rome...
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#866734 - 12/05/07 05:13 PM
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#866737 - 12/05/07 05:14 PM
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why does it have to get really mean?
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#866749 - 12/05/07 05:18 PM
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#866757 - 12/05/07 05:20 PM
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Does the U.S. tolerate anti-Muslim speech? Yes. That's what "freedom of speech" means.
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#866777 - 12/05/07 05:37 PM
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Nope. The new me would let it bother me might I suggest you review the attached good place to start Look Happy, the Cooler isn't the place for these discussions of my 'character' or 'lack of...'. If you or anyone else feels the need to address me, you can PM me.
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