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#870013 - 12/10/07 09:06 PM Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq?
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Disgusting. Enough said.

Victim: Gang-Rape Cover-Up by U.S., Halliburton/KBR
KBR Told Victim She Could Lose Her Job If She Sought Help After Being Raped, She Says

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=3977702&page=1

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A Houston, Texas woman says she was gang-raped by Halliburton/KBR coworkers in Baghdad, and the company and the U.S. government are covering up the incident.

Jamie Leigh Jones, now 22, says that after she was raped by multiple men at a KBR camp in the Green Zone, the company put her under guard in a shipping container with a bed and warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she'd be out of a job.
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#870018 - 12/10/07 09:12 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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These idiots? Could not agree more.

Are you saying that there are other savages as well?

Please expound.
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#870020 - 12/10/07 09:13 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
link? source? Also, not cool listing out the name of a rape victim...most credible news sources refuse to list the name of victims...
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#870025 - 12/10/07 09:15 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? MB Guy
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Originally Posted By: MB Guy
These idiots? Could not agree more.

Are you saying that there are other savages as well?

Please expound.


I've heard the insurgents/terrorists labeled as savages, by past coworkers,as well.

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#870029 - 12/10/07 09:16 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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Originally Posted By: Snow Miser
Originally Posted By: MB Guy
These idiots? Could not agree more.

Are you saying that there are other savages as well?

Please expound.


I've heard the insurgents/terrorists labeled as savages, by past coworkers,as well.


Yes; that is correct, many times.

Another point?
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#870032 - 12/10/07 09:18 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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#870042 - 12/10/07 09:25 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? °X°
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Point being, that if this is proven to be true, perhaps those who are free to throw around labels should take a moment and look in the mirror. How are we supposed to be an example for the world, if our conduct is no better than those we're labeling as savages?

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#870047 - 12/10/07 09:28 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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SM,

The point is, there are ***es everywhere, and in every corner of the globe. These people should be caught, prosecuted, and put in the klink if found guilty.

Your broad-brush strokes are inaccurate, and look who's the one stereotyping now? This appears to be an isolated instance, or did you run out and watch "Redacted" this weekend?
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#870054 - 12/10/07 09:32 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? MB Guy
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#870059 - 12/10/07 09:35 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? MB Guy
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And while there is no justification for these acts, where is the outrage when every last day a car bomb blows up and tears apart various civiians, or a journalist or civilian is beheaded?

I just do not hear the outrage from you on these things. No one justifies when soldiers or contracted security behave this way.

A similar "outrage" was raised by none other than John Murtha and John Kerry for Marines accused (and sentenced in the court of the media w/o trial yet)of killing inncoent civilians in Iraq, only to find that almost all of those marines were innocent of any wrongdoing.
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#870060 - 12/10/07 09:35 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? #Just Jay
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Your charges are fair MB. Perhaps I am alluding to Haliburton as being savage. However, if true, than what should happen to those at KBR who knew and did nothing about it? Perhaps they are not 'savages', but they are no doubt guilty by association...if true.

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#870062 - 12/10/07 09:35 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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Originally Posted By: Snow Miser
MB,
Point being, that if this is proven to be true, perhaps those who are free to throw around labels should take a moment and look in the mirror. How are we supposed to be an example for the world, if our conduct is no better than those we're labeling as savages?


Are you brain dead? If this story is true, it will be dealt with in America. Simply because of a few, doesn't take away from what terrorist have done and are doing. BTW - I'd really like to borrow your head for my rock garden!

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#870066 - 12/10/07 09:39 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? #Just Jay
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And no one, should, justify terrorist acts. I am very outraged by the attacks on civilians (both Iraqi and American, as well as those victims of terrorism in any country). However, how can one hope to influence the world from a moral standpoint when some Americans are acting as perverted as those we are hoping to influence? How can we be the beacon of what is right in the world, when so many do wrong and it goes unnoticed?

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#870073 - 12/10/07 09:43 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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Originally Posted By: Snow Miser
.....when so many do wrong and it goes unnoticed?


Where is there widespread behavior of this type by Americans?

Isolated, yes; rampant, negative.
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#870074 - 12/10/07 09:45 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? MB Guy
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Originally Posted By: MB Guy
Originally Posted By: Snow Miser
.....when so many do wrong and it goes unnoticed?


Where is there widespread behavior of this type by Americans?

Isolated, yes; rampant, negative.

You pretty much read my thoughts MB.
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#870076 - 12/10/07 09:47 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? TheManofSteel
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Again, poor word choice. I apologize to anyone I offended.

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#870078 - 12/10/07 09:48 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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Originally Posted By: Snow Miser
How can we be the beacon of what is right in the world, when so many do wrong and it goes unnoticed?


How has this incident gone unnoticed, when you are able to post a news link to the story?

I've often gotten the opposite impression - that so much of what many do right goes unnoticed and unreported, and those few who do wrong make all the headlines.
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#870079 - 12/10/07 09:49 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Becka Marr
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Unnoticed is not the correct word. I've been 'bad' today in that respect.

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#870092 - 12/10/07 09:54 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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But honest and truthful in recognizing it. Kudos
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#870094 - 12/10/07 09:55 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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C'mon Frank, lay off - you know that Barbie has first dibs on this material.

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#870097 - 12/10/07 09:56 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? TheManofSteel
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Originally Posted By: The Man of Steel
But honest and truthful in recognizing it. Kudos


Totally.
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#870101 - 12/10/07 09:59 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? TheManofSteel
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Originally Posted By: The Man of Steel
But honest and truthful in recognizing it. Kudos


I sometimes post with emotion and not logic. Heck, I am human and not a Vulcan so it is bound to happen every now and then!

But seriously, I posted this to inform those interested about the incredible injustice that Ms. Jones has faced. As the 2nd page states,
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Over two years later, the Justice Department has brought no criminal charges in the matter. In fact, ABC News could not confirm any federal agency was investigating the case.

Legal experts say Jones' alleged assailants will likely never face a judge and jury, due to an enormous loophole that has effectively left contractors in Iraq beyond the reach of United States law.

"It's very troubling," said Dean John Hutson of the Franklin Pierce Law Center. "The way the law presently stands, I would say that they don't have, at least in the criminal system, the opportunity for justice."

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#870103 - 12/10/07 10:00 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
sure like a link
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#870104 - 12/10/07 10:01 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? HappyGilmore
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Check the first post Happy...

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#870113 - 12/10/07 10:09 PM Re: Just Who Are The 'Savages' In Iraq? Imagine
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Originally Posted By: Snow Miser
Unnoticed is not the correct word. I've been 'bad' today in that respect.


Just know that I’m in need of your head for my rock garden, even a lefty head will do well out there. You seem close to not using it much longer.

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