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#883662 - 01/08/08 04:28 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Blade Scrapper
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Originally Posted By: Swimware
Originally Posted By: Sunny CU
Once we kill someone, there is no coming back.


Trivia question... # of documented of innocent people being actually executed in this country,. (hint: rhymes w/ "hero"). DNA evidence makes it even more unlikely.


False.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3472872.html

I believe, in the 1800s in Maine we hanged an innocent man...badly. Shortly thereafter DP was eliminated in Maine, but I can't find any documented info on this.

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#883667 - 01/08/08 04:29 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Blade Scrapper
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Originally Posted By: Swimware
Originally Posted By: Sunny CU
Once we kill someone, there is no coming back.


Trivia question... # of documented of innocent people being actually executed in this country,. (hint: rhymes w/ "hero"). DNA evidence makes it even more unlikely.


Bzzz wrong answer. There have been innocent people executed. Do a quick websearch for the Innocence Project and you'll find the correct number.

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#883681 - 01/08/08 04:44 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections B_F
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um.... here It is often claimed that 23 innocents have been executed in the US since 1900. Nonsense. Even the authors of that "23 innocents executed" study proclaimed "We agree with our critics, we never proved those (23) executed to be innocent; we never claimed that we had." While no one would claim that an innocent has never been executed, there is no proof of an innocent executed in the US, at least since 1900.
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#883689 - 01/08/08 04:50 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Blade Scrapper
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Originally Posted By: Swimware
um.... here It is often claimed that 23 innocents have been executed in the US since 1900. Nonsense. Even the authors of that "23 innocents executed" study proclaimed "We agree with our critics, we never proved those (23) executed to be innocent; we never claimed that we had." While no one would claim that an innocent has never been executed (Except Swimware), there is no proof of an innocent executed in the US, at least since 1900.

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#883696 - 01/08/08 05:05 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Comp Guy No More
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I never said it never happened, I said there has never been a documented case (meaning proof). Suspicion by Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and Innocence Project does not constitute proof (except to Comp Guy and BF).
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#883705 - 01/08/08 05:16 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Blade Scrapper
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Would it be ok with everyone if I just stab myself in the eyes with a mechanical pencil rather than get involved in this argument?

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#883724 - 01/08/08 05:29 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Jokerman
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No, you must get involved

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#883746 - 01/08/08 05:52 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections straw
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Ok, I will revert back to the texas article. (btw, I support the DP)


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3472872.html

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#883799 - 01/08/08 06:43 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Comp Guy No More
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well at least the debate is not about the death penalty itself, but whether or not lethal injection is too painful. I think it is utah that still has a firing squad listed as one of their DP procedures, all states could just revert to that.(well those with the DP)
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#883818 - 01/08/08 06:55 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Blade Scrapper
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It's very difficult to get someone to continue the process of trying to prove their innocence after you've killed them. Even bringing an action on their behalf is difficult because courts usually won't hear cases if they consider them to be moot.

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#883831 - 01/08/08 07:09 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections kms
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I dont really care if it is too painful. They are dying people - why should they go peacefully?
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#883853 - 01/08/08 07:23 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Queen Bee
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I dont really care if it is too painful

queen bee, but the constitution protects against cruel and unusual punishment. and they are trying to resolve this exact issue i believe.

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#883858 - 01/08/08 07:25 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Hated By Some
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you are right but what is the death penalty? As you can see many feel that alone is cruel and unusual punishment.
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#883859 - 01/08/08 07:26 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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I dont really care if it is too painful

queen bee, but the constitution protects against cruel and unusual punishment. and they are trying to resolve this exact issue i believe.

constitution shmonstitution... lets all just get blazed and sing kumbayah....
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#883863 - 01/08/08 07:28 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections doobydoobydoo
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I would think some of the other forms would be more painful
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#883873 - 01/08/08 07:31 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections kms
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maybe the form where we do to them what they did to their victim.. I am partial to that.
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#883875 - 01/08/08 07:31 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections kms
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Originally Posted By: kms
well at least the debate is not about the death penalty itself, but whether or not lethal injection is too painful. I think it is utah that still has a firing squad listed as one of their DP procedures, all states could just revert to that.(well those with the DP)


I think the firing squad is the ideal execution method -- it's cheap, simple, and should result in the quickest death (considering you have sharpshooters aiming at a stationary target at close range).

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#883877 - 01/08/08 07:31 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Queen Bee
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Originally Posted By: QueenBee
you are right but what is the death penalty?

good question...
about as useful as:
what is death?
What is penalty?
What is cruel?
What is unusual?
what is an analgesic?
Why are rainbows good?
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#883886 - 01/08/08 07:39 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections doobydoobydoo
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lets all just get blazed and sing kumbayah

if only this utopia were true.

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#883889 - 01/08/08 07:40 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Queen Bee
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you are right but what is the death penalty? As you can see many feel that alone is cruel and unusual punishment.

well, this is a matter of jurisprudence: the court has decided to solve a comparatively narrow issue rather than the whole kit and caboodle.

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#883890 - 01/08/08 07:41 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections doobydoobydoo
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Originally Posted By: DoobyDoobyDoo
Originally Posted By: QueenBee
you are right but what is the death penalty?

good question...
about as useful as:
what is death?
What is penalty?
What is cruel?
What is unusual?
what is an analgesic?
Why are rainbows good?


Momentary Thread Hijack...

If you've ever had a kid ask one of those questions, you should read "Father Knows Less Or: "Can I Cook My Sister?": One Dad's Quest to Answer His Son's Most Baffling Questions" by Wendell Jamieson

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#883945 - 01/08/08 08:22 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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I dont really care if it is too painful

queen bee, but the constitution protects against cruel and unusual punishment. and they are trying to resolve this exact issue i believe.


Is there a non-cruel way to end someone's life if not by lethal injection?

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#883961 - 01/08/08 08:35 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections straw
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Originally Posted By: straw
Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
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I dont really care if it is too painful

queen bee, but the constitution protects against cruel and unusual punishment. and they are trying to resolve this exact issue i believe.


Is there a non-cruel way to end someone's life if not by lethal injection?


Sicilian hooker-applied death by constriction.
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#884339 - 01/09/08 03:39 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections straw
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Originally Posted By: straw
Originally Posted By: Ron Mexico
Quote:
I dont really care if it is too painful

queen bee, but the constitution protects against cruel and unusual punishment. and they are trying to resolve this exact issue i believe.


Is there a non-cruel way to end someone's life if not by lethal injection?

so you think this court is going to go beyond the scope of the actual issue at hand: the cruel and unusual nature of this particular method of death? sure it could happen, but what of this court's recent jurisprudence makes you think that?

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#884341 - 01/09/08 03:40 PM Re: Supremem Court Divided Over Lethal Injections Hated By Some
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I did not mention the court at all. I asked you.

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