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#917170 - 03/07/08 04:20 PM Re: What is a Patriot? CRAatBOK
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I was refering more to the fact that some people think our country can do not wrong and if you don't agree with that you are labeled as unpatriotic.



Conceptually, we are on the same page, in that when one loves their country, they would strive to correct their wrongs. However, you and those who abide by your philosophy would perceive "wrongdoings" that those who see things from my angle see as "righteous." I see the proliferation of abortion as a terrible tragedy and wrong of our country, you likely see it as a sacred right. I see the demise of a vicious inhumane mass murderer as Saddam Hussein at the hands of the U.S. as righteous, and you probably see our military action as a gross violation of a foreign nation's sovereignty.

As for seeing certain people as being unpatriotic, well I think the lulus in Berkley, CA who protest a Marine recruting station are in fact, showing a lack of patriotism, and I stand by that, so if it makes me a chauvinist, fine then I am proud of that. I see groups who burn effigies of U.S. Soldiers and the U.S. Flag, but cover their own faces so no one can identify them, as being not only unpatriotic, but cowards. If that makes me a chauvinist, then I am damn proud of being one! I see U.S. Senators and Congressmen publicly naming members of the U.S. military "Nazis" as Dick Durban did in reference to servicemen at Guantanamo Bay as unpatriotic ---> If that makes me a chauvinist, then so be it. I can go on and on.


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Our country is far from perfect and has done some pretty horrendous things in the past (not too far past). I think unless we acknowledge our mistakes and learn from them then we are in trouble. There is a reason most other countries hate us.


Our nation has done wrong at times, slavery comes to mind, genetic testing of the elderly and newborns, etc. We are still maturing as a nation, and relative to other nations, are quite young. Yes, we must learn from our mistakes and grow. Why most countries hate us----> This is highly debateable, but we are not sitting on the bench like many European nations do w/r/t radical Islam, and a host of other things. We still have plenty of problems, but this world without the U.S. is a much darker and less developed world by far!

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#917181 - 03/07/08 04:24 PM Re: What is a Patriot? Pale Rider
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I was refering more to the fact that some people think our country can do not wrong and if you don't agree with that you are labeled as unpatriotic


I've yet to see evidence of this on this board...
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#917228 - 03/07/08 04:43 PM Re: What is a Patriot? #Just Jay
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You know what BBS at least I found a candidate that I could believe in stood behind, helped with campaign. Yes it is too bad that he left the race but get over your stupid little comments and stand for something instead of being an ass
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#917235 - 03/07/08 04:46 PM Re: What is a Patriot? kms
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What?? Fred is really dead... he passed away on Sunday!!

http://www.legacy.com/JSOnline/DeathNotices.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonID=105057644

Please kms, show some respect for the departed...

Who did you think I was talking about?
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#917250 - 03/07/08 04:53 PM Re: What is a Patriot? #Just Jay
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I'm smelling personal attacks in this thread!


Patriot - a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

Yet also - a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, esp. of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government.

from websters
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#917256 - 03/07/08 04:56 PM Re: What is a Patriot? A_G
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I know!! She is calling me mean names, and if I recall, I did not call her any names.

I feel that that was mean and hurtful.

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#917265 - 03/07/08 04:59 PM Re: What is a Patriot? #Just Jay
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then hit notify you big cry-baby!
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#917270 - 03/07/08 05:01 PM Re: What is a Patriot? A_G
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Does no good... kms is in the know, you know?
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#917271 - 03/07/08 05:01 PM Re: What is a Patriot? #Just Jay
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Remember BBS, KMS personally worked on the Thompson campaign, so every time you break balls (ovaries), you take your life into your hands.
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#917280 - 03/07/08 05:03 PM Re: What is a Patriot? TheManofSteel
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go ahead and hit the notify the button if that is what it will take to make you feel better
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#917282 - 03/07/08 05:03 PM Re: What is a Patriot? TheManofSteel
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OH!!! is she talking about that Fred???

See, I was talking about Mr. Schroeder, a true patriot, who happened to pass away this past week.


Now I understand the confusion... poor kory is still hanging on, huh?
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#917302 - 03/07/08 05:12 PM Re: What is a Patriot? #Just Jay
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Hhehehe. Yes, Kori is a trooper.
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#917762 - 03/07/08 09:04 PM Re: What is a Patriot? HappyGilmore
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I was refering more to the fact that some people think our country can do not wrong and if you don't agree with that you are labeled as unpatriotic


I've yet to see evidence of this on this board...


In addition to those dog mentioned how about the internment of stealing property of American citizens during WWII is not something to be proud of.
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#917769 - 03/07/08 09:06 PM Re: What is a Patriot? CRAatBOK
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KCG, that's all you got?
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#917771 - 03/07/08 09:06 PM Re: What is a Patriot? MB Guy
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Fred's still dead
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#917773 - 03/07/08 09:07 PM Re: What is a Patriot? #Just Jay
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#917964 - 03/07/08 10:21 PM Re: What is a Patriot? A_G
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Never mind.
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#917978 - 03/07/08 10:27 PM Re: What is a Patriot? CRAatBOK
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In addition to those dog mentioned how about the internment of stealing property of American citizens during WWII is not something to be proud of.


I've tried, but I can't make sense of this sentence. In the future, stay out of the virtual bar on Friday's prior to posting...
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#918055 - 03/08/08 12:03 AM Re: What is a Patriot? HappyGilmore
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sorry, I was distracted by work when trying to type this. Here is the corrected version of what I was trying to say.

In addition to those Black Dog mentioned, how about the internment and stealing property of American citizens during WWII. That is not something to be proud of.
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#918230 - 03/10/08 01:18 PM Re: What is a Patriot? CRAatBOK
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No, that wasn't good. It was time of war, and for the first time, the US was struck on US soil, so I am sure paranoia ran deep.

Obviously, it should not have occurred, but, you cannot judge our country's worth on a few episodes of bad judgment after all of the good that this country has done in it's history for the world.
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