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#933969 - 04/01/08 06:47 PM A pretty sad day in America
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When a student is given a "0" on an artwork because it has religious symbols, yet students with demonic drawings are allowed. And the school displays a number of other religious symbols. I'd sure like to be on this jury.

Student Sues Wisconsin School After Getting a Zero for Religious Drawing
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#933972 - 04/01/08 06:49 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America HappyGilmore
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#933974 - 04/01/08 06:50 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America HappyGilmore
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Wow, that's total [censored]

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#933975 - 04/01/08 06:50 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America A_G
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#933976 - 04/01/08 06:50 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America A_G
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#933980 - 04/01/08 06:52 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America HappyGilmore
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#933981 - 04/01/08 06:52 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Snow Bunny
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#933982 - 04/01/08 06:53 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Snow Bunny
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#933986 - 04/01/08 06:54 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: HappyGilmore
When a student is given a "0" on an artwork because it has religious symbols, yet students with demonic drawings are allowed. And the school displays a number of other religious symbols. I'd sure like to be on this jury.

Student Sues Wisconsin School After Getting a Zero for Religious Drawing


No big surprise here. Ungodly pagan society we have become, this is par for the course. But we are building up a steamroller of Chastisement as a nation for all of these disrespectful mindsets.
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#933988 - 04/01/08 06:56 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America A_G
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Quote:
I don't read faux news


the truth is too hard to swallow...
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#933993 - 04/01/08 06:58 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America HappyGilmore
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Are we sure the student didn't get a "0" just because it was a bad drawing?

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#934007 - 04/01/08 07:05 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Hrothgar Geiger
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
If you know how to read, the article goes into detail. if you don't know how to read, bring it to the library, they'll read it to you...
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#934013 - 04/01/08 07:07 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: HappyGilmore
If you know how to read, the article goes into detail. if you don't know how to read, bring it to the library, they'll read it to you...


I read the article, I also *saw* the picture. The picture, on its own merits, didn't rate a very high grade as far as I could see. I didn't see any of the 'demonic' images that were alleged.

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#934017 - 04/01/08 07:12 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Hrothgar Geiger
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Unless it is a drafting class, isn't quality subjective?
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#934019 - 04/01/08 07:12 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Hrothgar Geiger
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higher than zero though eh Barbarian?

or no?
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#934025 - 04/01/08 07:16 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Blade Scrapper
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Sure, Ofay. Art teachers don't give grades, they just take attendance. They have no instructional plan, assignments, techniques and no basis upon which to assess achievement. Everything the little darlings do is just pure gold. :rolls eyes:

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#934028 - 04/01/08 07:17 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Hrothgar Geiger
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The picture was pretty bad...
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#934031 - 04/01/08 07:21 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America #Just Jay
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Ofay! then a zero it is!!!!
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#934033 - 04/01/08 07:22 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Pale Rider
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Originally Posted By: Mr. Bisquick
higher than zero though eh Barbarian?

or no?


You raise an excellent point. We don't know what the assignment was. It could very well have been "draw all your mountains to look like pyramids, and give dimension to everything but the focal point of the picture, make shadows as if the light is coming from 16 sources and don't put anything in the foreground" In that case, he should have gotten a higher grade.

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#934034 - 04/01/08 07:24 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Hrothgar Geiger
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Originally Posted By: AML-Barbarian
Originally Posted By: Mr. Bisquick
higher than zero though eh Barbarian?

or no?


You raise an excellent point. We don't know what the assignment was. It could very well have been "draw all your mountains to look like pyramids, and give dimension to everything but the focal point of the picture, make shadows as if the light is coming from 16 sources and don't put anything in the foreground" In that case, he should have gotten a higher grade.


Assignment: "the student's art teacher asked his class in February to draw landscapes."

Reason for 0: "The student, a senior identified in the lawsuit by the initials A.P., added a cross and the words "John 3:16 A sign of love" in his drawing.

His teacher, Julie Millin, asked him to remove the reference to the Bible, saying students were making remarks about it. He refused, and she gave him a zero on the project.

Millin showed the student a policy for the class that prohibited any violence, blood, sexual connotations or religious beliefs in artwork. The lawsuit claims Millin told the boy he had signed away his constitutional rights when he signed the policy at the beginning of the semester."

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#934037 - 04/01/08 07:26 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America B_F
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hey we need that policy in the cooler!

youse don't have any rights in here either!
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#934049 - 04/01/08 07:37 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America #Just Jay
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It looked pretty grim to me.
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#934056 - 04/01/08 07:42 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Pale Rider
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BF,

1. as a landscape, the drawing is pretty awful.
2. the student was a senior, and the policy might not have been a surprise.
3. the student tore up the school policy and refused to follow it.

Try this concept for a moment.
Assignment: draw a landscape
Student draws a landscape that is actually a sexually explicit figure.
Teacher asks the student to re-draw the landscape, and shows the school policy.
Student refuses to re-do the assignment, and tears up the school policy.
What grade do you expect the teacher to give?

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#934058 - 04/01/08 07:45 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Bacon Boy
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crosses can be part of a landscape, they were pretty common two millenia ago

and the reference could have been part of the student's sig line

nevertheless, I like that policy
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#934062 - 04/01/08 07:46 PM Re: A pretty sad day in America Pale Rider
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Originally Posted By: Mr. Bisquick
crosses can be part of a landscape, they were pretty common two millenia ago


Unlike you, not all of us were alive that long ago.
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