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#936205 - 04/04/08 11:37 AM 81% think the country is on the wrong track...
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81% of Americans Think USA on Wrong Track

My only question is: How many are going to get off their azz and vote?!?!
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#936236 - 04/04/08 12:58 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... FBH
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this right here says it all...
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The poll also found that Americans blame government officials for the housing crisis more than banks or home buyers and other borrowers. Forty percent of respondents said regulators were mostly to blame, while 28 percent named lenders and 14 percent named borrowers.



Not my fault I borrowed more than I can afford to pay back, but I had to keep up with the Jones
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#936275 - 04/04/08 02:07 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... HappyGilmore
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Government housing for everyone.
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#936283 - 04/04/08 02:23 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... TB 12
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"Americans favored help for people but not for financial institutions in assessing possible responses to the mortgage crisis. A clear majority said they did not want the government to lend a hand to banks, even if the measures would help limit the depth of a recession."

22% of those polled believed the housing crisis was caused by aliens.

Most people who are polled are idiots who have no idea what is going on in the world.


More importantly.... "The nationwide telephone survey of 1,368 adults"

Wow, big sample, this has to be accurate.
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#936293 - 04/04/08 02:31 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... B_F
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I was flipping threw the channels and came accross a TV show for first time home buyers. They'd look at houses and would always pick the one they couldn't afford. They then showed them going to a mortgage broker who was encouraging them to get an interest only loan to reduce the payments. I wonder where those people are now?

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#936294 - 04/04/08 02:32 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... TB 12
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Originally Posted By: Sox in 07
Government housing for everyone.


Think they'd foot the bill for a house I saw on MTV cribs?

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#936303 - 04/04/08 02:39 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... CB#3
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#936331 - 04/04/08 02:56 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... CB#3
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Originally Posted By: Excess
Originally Posted By: Sox in 07
Government housing for everyone.


Think they'd foot the bill for a house I saw on MTV cribs?


Yes-all you have to do is buy the house, regardless of your qualifications. Some big, nasty mortgage lender is sure to loan the money to you. Then when you can't make the payments, go to your local TV reporter and tell them you had no clue what you were signing, and by golly, the banker said I could afford it. Then, pray that Obama or Clinton get elected, then just wait for your check.
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#936352 - 04/04/08 03:05 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... TB 12
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Lol @ sox.. Sounds like a well thought out plan.
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#936366 - 04/04/08 03:10 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... TB 12
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A CBS-NYT poll gave these numbers? Wow, informative. I bet if you polled ESPN magazine subscribers, a majority of them would say they like sports too.
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#936645 - 04/04/08 07:10 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... GuitarDude
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GuitarDude: This wasn't a poll of CBS viewers or NYT subscribers. They just conducted the poll.

It was a scientific survey done by random nationwide sampling. The methodology is explained here: Poll

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#936654 - 04/04/08 07:18 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... Yossarian
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it was a survey of random whiners!
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#936668 - 04/04/08 07:31 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... Pale Rider
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I'm sorry, one of the first things they teach you in statistics is that if your sample isn't large enough, it's value is about worthless. 1,368 people is not enough to get the feeling for a single city, yet alone a state, yet alone the entire nation.

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#936697 - 04/04/08 07:47 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... B_F
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#936720 - 04/04/08 07:58 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... B_F
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Originally Posted By: Bengalsfan
I'm sorry, one of the first things they teach you in statistics is that if your sample isn't large enough, it's value is about worthless. 1,368 people is not enough to get the feeling for a single city, yet alone a state, yet alone the entire nation.

do you even know the formula to determine how large a sample size must be? i bet they do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample_size

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#936722 - 04/04/08 08:01 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... Yossarian
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Originally Posted By: Yossarian
GuitarDude: This wasn't a poll of CBS viewers or NYT subscribers. They just conducted the poll.

It was a scientific survey done by random nationwide sampling. The methodology is explained here: Poll


Thanks Yoss...

From the poll:

Have you already voted in or do you plan to vote in a Democratic primary or caucus this year, OR in a Republican Primary or caucus, or are you not voting in a primary or caucus at all this year?

3/28-4/2/08
Democratic Primary - 43
Republican Primary - 25
Not voting - 25
Never vote(vol.) 1
DK/NA 6

And then from the same page that you linked to:

Obama's Support Softens in Poll, Suggesting a Peak Has Passed Link - see I have an agenda too
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#936762 - 04/04/08 08:31 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... B_F
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Originally Posted By: Bengalsfan
I'm sorry, one of the first things they teach you in statistics is that if your sample isn't large enough, it's value is about worthless. 1,368 people is not enough to get the feeling for a single city, yet alone a state, yet alone the entire nation.


Actually, the sample size doesn't make it worthless, just potentially less accurate. Shouldn't posters at least know something about a topic before opining? wink

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#936776 - 04/04/08 08:45 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... B_F
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if your sample isn't large enough


From the link I gave on this poll's methodology:

"In theory, in 19 cases out of 20, overall results based on such samples will differ by no more than three percentage points in either direction from what would have been obtained by seeking to interview all American adults."

A margin of three percent is very accurate for a national poll. You just don't like the results.

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#936782 - 04/04/08 08:52 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... Yossarian
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Originally Posted By: Yossarian

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if your sample isn't large enough


You just don't like the results.


I don't think any of us were saying we disagree with the results, I know I wasn't

its just a poll, doesn't really tell us much: liberals, conservatives, libertarians, zealots of one stripe or another -- they all may think the country is going to he11 in a handbasket, but for totally different reasons
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#936787 - 04/04/08 08:55 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... QCL
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Thanks Yoss...

From the poll:

Have you already voted in or do you plan to vote in a Democratic primary or caucus this year, OR in a Republican Primary or caucus, or are you not voting in a primary or caucus at all this year?

3/28-4/2/08
Democratic Primary - 43
Republican Primary - 25
Not voting - 25
Never vote(vol.) 1
DK/NA 6


MOPNB: Are you saying you think something is wrong with these numbers? That's a margin of about three D voters in the primaries to every two Rs. That's about what the rate has been throughout the campaign, far more voters in the Democratic primaries and even more so now that there is no real race among Republicans.

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#936791 - 04/04/08 08:58 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... Pale Rider
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I don't think any of us were saying we disagree with the results, I know I wasn't


My comment was directed to Bengalsfan, who certainly was doing that.

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#936799 - 04/04/08 09:03 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... FBH
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81% of Americans Think USA on Wrong Track



yeah, but, like, 19% think it is, like, on the right track, like, ya know!! (sorry, just heard a radio interview from the local college station and this was a response to this very poll, pretty much word for word)
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#936800 - 04/04/08 09:03 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... Pale Rider
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Originally Posted By: Pale Rider
Originally Posted By: Yossarian

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if your sample isn't large enough


You just don't like the results.


I don't think any of us were saying we disagree with the results, I know I wasn't

its just a poll, doesn't really tell us much: liberals, conservatives, libertarians, zealots of one stripe or another -- they all may think the country is going to he11 in a handbasket, but for totally different reasons


Very good point Pale. I certainly do not like my nation's direction, but for vastly different reasons than a left-wingers angle
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#936802 - 04/04/08 09:09 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: HappyGilmore
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81% of Americans Think USA on Wrong Track



yeah, but, like, 19% think it is, like, on the right track, like, ya know!! (sorry, just heard a radio interview from the local college station and this was a response to this very poll, pretty much word for word)


Sweet...

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#936804 - 04/04/08 09:14 PM Re: 81% think the country is on the wrong track... QCL
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hopefully that guy is counted among those that have never voted (and hopefully never will)
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