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#938431 - 04/09/08 01:40 PM
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Recently a poster defended the parents actions denying a child medical treatment which resulted in the childs death. The poster claimed it was the parents right to treat the child as they saw fit. I was wondering if the series of events in Eldorado Texas appear any different to the poster or if this is viewed similarly - what the parents see as best for the Children.
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#938442 - 04/09/08 01:54 PM
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Can you provide a link of some sort? I don't know what you are referencing...
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#938488 - 04/09/08 02:22 PM
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he is referencing the 400+ children that have been taken from the offshoot of the Mormon Church that was started by Warren Jeffs. His group was kicked out of the Mormon Church because they practiced arranged marriages, polygamy, and marriage to minors, among other things. It has been all over the news for the past 2 weeks...
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#938490 - 04/09/08 02:23 PM
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Recently a poster defended the parents actions denying a child medical treatment which resulted in the childs death. The poster claimed it was the parents right to treat the child as they saw fit. I was wondering if the series of events in Eldorado Texas appear any different to the poster or if this is viewed similarly - what the parents see as best for the Children. Well for starters, that defense of the parents was in jest... you have to learn not to take everything you read here int he cooler so seriously. Secondly, there were many events that have taken place at that compound. Please be more specific in what event or belief you would like to discuss, by your post heading, I am assuming your concern is with the practice of polygamy itself... can you narrow down our concern?
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#938510 - 04/09/08 02:34 PM
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I read the links, thank you.
I think it is a shame that these children are being "forced" into wedlock, it seems just as bad as slavery.
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#938521 - 04/09/08 02:44 PM
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While I'm not opposed to polygamy or open relationships, I firmly believe such relationships are only for consenting adults. Arranged and forced marriages are slavery, and when it involves children it's beyond repulsive and warrents someone's genitals to be removed. Just my opinion.
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#938537 - 04/09/08 02:54 PM
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The same thing--but on a smaller scale--was happening in northern AZ. It's just sad.
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#938820 - 04/09/08 06:19 PM
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first of all.. again, who are you to say what is right?
These people have a deep seeded religious belief that what they are doing is right. They arent going to let go of it easily. Religious beliefs- all of them -are at their very essense illogical. At the end of the day it will boil down to faith, or what you believe, or what you think is right....
So i say if that is how they raise their family, as long as they believe it is right, we have no business getting involved...
And yes I am being serious
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#938823 - 04/09/08 06:24 PM
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The argument doesn't appear to be about polyamous relationships between consenting adults, 3D. It's about forcing marriages on women and children. No matter what way you're rolling the paper, it's still victimizing those who have no choice in the matter.
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#938825 - 04/09/08 06:26 PM
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Guns and other weapons. What and how much do these nutcases have stashed out there on that ranch anyway? That’s what concerns me. That creates a hostile environment for those women and children. Now that the kids are out, the authorities need to go in there and look for and seize weapons now before we have another Waco
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#938826 - 04/09/08 06:27 PM
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The argument doesn't appear to be about polyamous relationships between consenting adults, 3D. It's about forcing marriages on women and children. No matter what way you're rolling the paper, it's still victimizing those who have no choice in the matter. who are they to have choice anyway.... they are unable to make a decision for themselves right, that is what we say because they are not "legally" able to enter into contracts... So these people make the decision for them and "force" them into these situations. It jsut so happens that a lot of people disagree with what they are doing, but who are we to judge them? We dont know whats right either. All they can do is make the best decision that they know to make. Remember, the world used to be flat.
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#938835 - 04/09/08 06:35 PM
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The argument doesn't appear to be about polyamous relationships between consenting adults, 3D. It's about forcing marriages on women and children. No matter what way you're rolling the paper, it's still victimizing those who have no choice in the matter. who are they to have choice anyway.... they are unable to make a decision for themselves right, that is what we say because they are not "legally" able to enter into contracts... So these people make the decision for them and "force" them into these situations. It jsut so happens that a lot of people disagree with what they are doing, but who are we to judge them? We dont know whats right either.All they can do is make the best decision that they know to make. Remember, the world used to be flat. What do you mean? Like he$$ we don't know what is right!
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#938841 - 04/09/08 06:38 PM
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These people have a deep seeded religious belief that what they are doing is right. I'd argue that this statement is false. I do not believe they truely have a religious belief that raping children is right. I believe they know it is not, but they use religon as a way to get the women to accept it.
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#938846 - 04/09/08 06:40 PM
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WOW!! I don't even know what to say, these are innocent children, regardless of their religion. No 12 or 13 year old should ever have to enter into any type of marriage. We do know that is right!!!
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#938852 - 04/09/08 06:42 PM
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Statutory rape, polygamy, & abuse are illegal in this country. If they aren't happy with those laws, they should move. Now ops, that form of logic doesn't work! At one time African Americans weren't people and women couldn't vote (all by law). Also, abortion is currently legal. So that would mean, you are saying those who are pro-life should move?
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#938854 - 04/09/08 06:43 PM
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This thread also made me think of the the difference between a religion and cult. Is the line sometimes blurred? What defines each?
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#938855 - 04/09/08 06:44 PM
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Statutory rape, polygamy, & abuse are illegal in this country. If they aren't happy with those laws, they should move. Now ops, that form of logic doesn't work! At one time African Americans weren't people and women couldn't vote (all by law). Also, abortion is currently legal. So that would mean, you are saying those who are pro-life should move? It was tongue in cheek, dear AG.
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#938856 - 04/09/08 06:45 PM
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first of all.. again, who are you to say what is right?
These people have a deep seeded religious belief that what they are doing is right. They arent going to let go of it easily. Religious beliefs- all of them -are at their very essense illogical. At the end of the day it will boil down to faith, or what you believe, or what you think is right....
So i say if that is how they raise their family, as long as they believe it is right, we have no business getting involved...
And yes I am being serious
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who are they to have choice anyway....
they are unable to make a decision for themselves right, that is what we say because they are not "legally" able to enter into contracts...
So these people make the decision for them and "force" them into these situations. It jsut so happens that a lot of people disagree with what they are doing, but who are we to judge them? We dont know whats right either.
All they can do is make the best decision that they know to make.
Remember, the world used to be flat. Same thing goes for 13-year olds that want to prostitute themselves or other 13-year olds, right, Dooby? See, folks, you thought that my posts in that thread were silly, but this really is where moral relativism leads. Enjoy!
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