is advisor the same as decision-maker? do you think that ayers and wright are being given cabinet positions?

should obama's campaign strategy have focused around clearing up what cynics and spin doctors would impugn him with?

I'm in a fairly small town in PA, but my primary issues aren't guns and religion. Sure those are the primary concerns of many people around here, but I wouldn't say that having a 'focus-issue' is unique to small town America. Aren't the issues that affect you the most, the ones you are going to be most interested in? Does it make someone in the northwest small-minded because their primary concern is for the environment?

The 'bitter' part of his comment was definately a shot at people that don't happen to support him. If it was so downtrodden here, we would have 50% unemployment and a daily suicide watch. If he would spend some time here, he might find-out why people in small-town PA don't support him. It's not because of guns or religion, it's because we don't want an unAmerican bull@*$! artist who has never accomplished anything in his carreer, leading our country.

DSchrute, bravo, well stated Sir.

thank you for helping me.

guns and religious-motivated social policies *affect* people the most?!

actually, the same thing could likely be said about these people. however, energy demand and health are issue that do affect peoples' lives.


hyperbole is your trump card apparently.

His spiritual advisor, but no I shouldn't be worried by a candidate who asks for advice from someone with his views.

If this was McCain, and his Reverand was found to be spouting racist and hateful rhetoric, do you honestly think you would say, oh well, I know McCain doesn't believe that and after all, that Reverand isn't going to get a cabinet post.

If guns don't affect people's lives, why do you argue for gun control. Guns have no affect.

DSchrute = Karl Rove.


"unAmerican bull@*$! artist"?
Please provide examples instead of using 2004 GOP spin terms.

so now obama is not associated with seperation of church and state? is the advice that obama asks about related to if he should hate (or whatever) or, maybe, is he asking about things that people have come out saying that wright has been a tremendous asset for the community about? gee, i just don't know... (get real, straw)

is white culture in american history esentially the same as black history or is there at least a basis for rejecting your mirror image hypothetical?

primarily for sport tbh.

either way, it was a relative proposition.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/14/AR2008041402649.html

Also interesting opine in regards to Hillary's response to "BitterGate".

neo, the pulitzer prizes that the wp hordes are granted by quasi-communists.

also, it is de rigueur to dismiss the possibility that the basis for his straight talk (ie UNlike that which politicians typically use) was bona fide empathy for these people.

cynicism is the new black.

No you are correct, asking a racist american hater is ok, so long as you don't ask about politics. I am sure he compartmentalizes those beliefs very well, unlike KKK members, whose racism tinges everything about them.

And thank you for admitting that you don't believe an Afican American can be racist.

Part of me hopes Obama wins just so your bubble can be burst and you can join reality about what government and politicians can and cannot accomplish.

Ron, did you see any excerpts from Colbert on Larry King?

I think you might find them mildly amusing, my pot smoking fellow citizen.

because his writings and indicate that he is... (straw, you really are grasping at yourself here)

i did not.

and i don't smoke now.

Hmmm...I thought it was about recognizing the difference between someone speaking for themself, or on behalf of another. I don't recall that Wright was speaking for anyone but himself, or that what he said specifically reflected on Obama.

But, no matter! I'm sure that my comments here can easily be discredited by anyone who finds comments by Mr. "X" objectionable.

Not what you said. You said

"is white culture in american history esentially the same as black history or is there at least a basis for rejecting your mirror image hypothetical?"

That has nothing to do with an individual (either preacher or Obama, although I was talking about the preacher).

This states that whites can be racists because of history, but the correlary is not true.

Don't backpedal. Be a man and admit your beliefs like you hero Obama does. Stop the political double talk and say it.

Becka,

There's a big difference between just being associated with someone, and sitting there listening to a sermon shouting AMEN BROTHER! when such things are said. We are also talking about someone who Obama said was his advisor, and created a position for in his government as it was. What makes you think he won't give this anti-american, racist preacher a position on his staff if elected?

umm, yes it does. it has to do with what wright was saying. i am pretty sure that wright would be considered an individual.

but it DOESN'T indicate that OBAMA is racist based on his writings, speeches and comments simply because obama has some association with wright. stop acting like you have me backed into some corner. just stop already. get back to work.

"is white culture in american history esentially the same as black history or is there at least a basis for rejecting your mirror image hypothetical?"

Explain how this relates to Wright personally.

Were you there BF? Do you know Obama shouted "AMEN!"? I've, unfortunately, been to a Church service where we were asked to pray for certain things that I do not believe in. I respectfully declinded to say "Lord hear our prayer", but I did not leave the Church service that day. Should I have left the Church all together, in your view?

umm, we were talking about wright's rhetoric. do i need to make a flow chart for you?

Neo, were the things your pastor were asking you to pray for incendiary? Were they a normal basis? Is the church you go to known to be a church that stands for racism? Wait, not unless you're going to Obama's church.

You didn't answer the question. You're putting forth a claim that Obama echoed Reverend Wright's remarks, even going so far as claiming he shout a great "AMEN" in support of them. That is wrong.