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#947965 - 04/23/08 01:10 PM Feds say NJ man spied for Israel
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After serving as a mechanical engineer at Picatinny Arsenal for 27 years, Ben-Ami Kadish retired to a quiet senior citizens' community in Middlesex County.

A World War II veteran, he hung a large U.S. flag from the porch of his tidy one-story home. He and his wife Doris often hosted friends for coffee, cake and meals. She baked and collected canned goods for a local charity; he served a stint as commander of Jewish War Veterans Post 609.

But on March 20 of this year, Kadish knew his past was catching up to him as he accepted a phone call, federal law enforcement officials allege.

"Don't say anything. Let them say whatever they want. You didn't ... do anything," an old friend allegedly told him in Hebrew, referring to an ongoing federal investigation into espionage. "What happened 25 years ago? You didn't remember anything."

But it was too late.

Kadish, the FBI charged Tuesday, was a spy who betrayed the United States. The person on the other end of the line was his handler, a former Israeli government official. Between 1979 and 1985, Kadish swiped between 50 and 100 classified documents for Israel from the U.S. Army base where he worked, according to a criminal complaint unsealed in federal court in Manhattan.

The classified documents Kadish allegedly disclosed pertained to nuclear weapons, a modified version of an F-15 fighter jet the U.S. had sold to another country, and the U.S. Patriot missile air defense system, according to the criminal complaint. They were marked "RESTRICTED DATA," "Secret" and "NOFORN," or "Not Releasable to Foreign Nationals."

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/topstories/index.ssf/2008/04/feds_allege_nj_man_spied_on_us.html

Not for nothing, but if he had stolen these plans for China, Russia, Iraq, Iran, etc., would there have been more of a public outcry?

Bottom line: The man stole classified documents, including documents on nuclear weapons, and gave them to a foreign country. Espionage is espionage. Throw the book at 'im.
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#947969 - 04/23/08 01:12 PM Re: Feds say NJ man spied for Israel Imagine
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Some news sources have suggested that Kadish had the same 'handler' as Pollard.

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#947990 - 04/23/08 01:30 PM Re: Feds say NJ man spied for Israel Imagine
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[quote=Imagine]
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After serving as a mechanical engineer at Picatinny Arsenal for 27 years, Ben-Ami Kadish retired to a quiet senior citizens' community in Middlesex County.

A World War II veteran, he hung a large U.S. flag from the porch of his tidy one-story home. He and his wife Doris often hosted friends for coffee, cake and meals. She baked and collected canned goods for a local charity; he served a stint as commander of Jewish War Veterans Post 609.

But on March 20 of this year, Kadish knew his past was catching up to him as he accepted a phone call, federal law enforcement officials allege.

"Don't say anything. Let them say whatever they want. You didn't ... do anything," an old friend allegedly told him in Hebrew, referring to an ongoing federal investigation into espionage. "What happened 25 years ago? You didn't remember anything."

But it was too late.

Kadish, the FBI charged Tuesday, was a spy who betrayed the United States. The person on the other end of the line was his handler, a former Israeli government official. Between 1979 and 1985, Kadish swiped between 50 and 100 classified documents for Israel from the U.S. Army base where he worked, according to a criminal complaint unsealed in federal court in Manhattan.

The classified documents Kadish allegedly disclosed pertained to nuclear weapons, a modified version of an F-15 fighter jet the U.S. had sold to another country, and the U.S. Patriot missile air defense system, according to the criminal complaint. They were marked "RESTRICTED DATA," "Secret" and "NOFORN," or "Not Releasable to Foreign Nationals."

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/topstories/index.ssf/2008/04/feds_allege_nj_man_spied_on_us.html

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Not for nothing, but if he had stolen these plans for China, Russia, Iraq, Iran, etc., would there have been more of a public outcry?


Since it is a relative question, I'd say yes, because Israel is notdeemed a threat to the U.S. , and is obviously an ally. Espionage goes on between allies too, for whatever reason. Still does not make it right or ok in any way, but just relatively less
egregious than had the spying been for one of those countries.

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Bottom line: The man stole classified documents, including documents on nuclear weapons, and gave them to a foreign country. Espionage is espionage. Throw the book at 'im.


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#948000 - 04/23/08 01:38 PM Re: Feds say NJ man spied for Israel TheManofSteel
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And is punishable by death!!!
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#948137 - 04/23/08 03:12 PM Re: Feds say NJ man spied for Israel kms
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Not to worry. He will rot right next to Pollard for the rest of his life.

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#948169 - 04/23/08 03:36 PM Re: Feds say NJ man spied for Israel straw
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Not to worry. He will rot right next to Pollard for the rest of his life.

Unless the Israelis catch one of ours.

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#948172 - 04/23/08 03:38 PM Re: Feds say NJ man spied for Israel Jokerman
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not likely. My guess is the Israelis will lay VERY low on this one, as I am sure top level assurances were given from their government to our government that this would not happen again.

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#948176 - 04/23/08 03:40 PM Re: Feds say NJ man spied for Israel straw
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What perplexes me is why allies spy on allies. Would they not want to focus their efforts on China, Russia, Iran, Syria. Likewise for the U.S. and Britain, as it is likely there has been spying between the two nations, and France etc
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#948184 - 04/23/08 03:48 PM Re: Feds say NJ man spied for Israel TheManofSteel
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Because even allies have information that is valuable that you want to obtain.

For Israel, they want to maintain their "secret" nuclear weapons cache and they need the latest technological breakthroughs to maintain their weapons capability.

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