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#967463 - 06/02/08 03:06 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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#967530 - 06/02/08 04:25 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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Puerto Rico aside, the funeral march has begun for Senator Clinton.
As of this morning, Senator Obama is 44 delegates away from the nomination.
Is there still a way for Senator Clinton to win? CNN says 46, not 44. Can she win? It is possible. She needs to peel away superdelegates that have already committed to Obama and pick up virtually all the uncommitted superdelegates. Will she win? I don't think so. I just don't see her succeeding in doing what she needs to do. But, I don't think that will stop her from trying. This is her one and only shot to be President. She doesn't give a rat's posterior about party unity. She wants to win. She will keep trying until it is absolutely clear she has lost.
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#967548 - 06/02/08 04:45 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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well, that Shari'a law may get to Obama too!!!
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#967574 - 06/02/08 05:15 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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I agree with BF..she will appeal the decision to split the FL and MI delegates.....she could care less about unity. Win at all costs.
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#967578 - 06/02/08 05:23 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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in the big scheme of things, does it really matter which democrat wins teh party nomination? neither will be in the WH come January...except to visit Mr. McCain and wish him well.
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#967586 - 06/02/08 05:31 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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I agree with BF..she will appeal the decision to split the FL and MI delegates.....she could care less about unity. Win at all costs. And then, she'll most likely run as an independent if that fails.
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#967596 - 06/02/08 05:44 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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I agree with BF..she will appeal the decision to split the FL and MI delegates.....she could care less about unity. Win at all costs. And then, she'll most likely run as an independent if that fails. Hello, President McCain.
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#967599 - 06/02/08 05:47 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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I hope I am not a curse, because I have now volunteered to work with his campaign and the at the republican convention..
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#967702 - 06/02/08 07:58 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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the citizens of Michigan and Florida are being hosed!!!!!
...........counted as only 1/2 a human being, that was worse than slavery......
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#967720 - 06/02/08 08:10 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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I agree with BF..she will appeal the decision to split the FL and MI delegates.....she could care less about unity. Win at all costs. And then, she'll most likely run as an independent if that fails. Hello, President McCain. Exactly.
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#967726 - 06/02/08 08:20 PM
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the citizens of Michigan and Florida are being hosed!!!!!
...........counted as only 1/2 a human being, that was worse than slavery...... Pale, The Republican party has penalized several states for not following their rules by stripping away half their delegates. So, the Democrats seat all their delegates but only give them 1/2 votes. The Republicans give their delegate full votes, but only seat half of them. Neither approach is a particularly good one, but political parties are private clubs, their whacky rules are their own business.
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#967756 - 06/02/08 08:53 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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Neo, are you actively campaigning for B. Hussein Obama?
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#967766 - 06/02/08 08:58 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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true up to a point AML, but the primary decision on the Pubbie side has not impact on the outcome, while it has the potential for significant impact in the Democrat primary
and as my friend Neo understands, I care less than a rat's tail about the democrat primary, this is simply taking pleasure in a party that wanted all the votes counted in Florida previously but now only wants to count half the votes not only in Michigan but Florida - its a juicy irony, no?
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#967803 - 06/02/08 09:29 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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As of yesterday, Clinton's campaign was still giving it a go here in SD. My wife and I each received calls on our cell phones even though neither of us are registered Dems (she independent, myself Libertarian) and can't vote as SD has a closed primary, and someone else did a lit drop while we were out of the house.
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#967872 - 06/02/08 11:17 PM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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this is simply taking pleasure in a party that wanted all the votes counted in Florida previously but now only wants to count half the votes not only in Michigan but Florida - its a juicy irony, no? Not really. The juiciness depends on your willingness to confuse primary politics with an actual election. Unless you want to compare the irony to the bracing honesty of the Republican attitude that stripping away half the delegates is unimportant because their votes don't matter anyway.
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#967890 - 06/03/08 01:51 AM
Re: Countdown to the Nomination
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In addition to the difference between an election and a nominating process, all the votes in Florida and Michigan were counted. The issue was not whether the vote totals were correct as it was in 2000, but rather what delegates would be seated and counted under the rules.
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