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#969021 - 06/04/08 02:15 PM Who raised this kid?
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#969027 - 06/04/08 02:18 PM Re: Who raised this kid? kms
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what's he sick with?
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#969030 - 06/04/08 02:19 PM Re: Who raised this kid? kitten
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sorry i should have said deranged. I can post the whole article if you want:

CLEVELAND A teenager accused of plotting a school attack wrote that he wanted "instant recognition" for shooting a record number of victims and that he wouldn't feel sorry about it, according to documents unsealed Tuesday.

A black spiral notebook authorities obtained from the 16-year-old boy's locker at Penn High School in Mishawaka, Ind., contained handwritten entries in which the teen expressed his hatred for most of the people at the school.

"I wanna break the current shooting record. I wanna get instant recognition. The only thing that stops me is the fact of being put in jail forever, or having to kill myself, or getting killed by an officer. I could kill anyone without feeling sorry because society sucks!!!" read an entry dated April 18, the day before he was arrested.

The teenager has been charged with a juvenile count of conspiracy to commit murder and a denial plea has been entered on his behalf. A hearing is scheduled on June 11 to determine whether he'll stay in juvenile custody.

He is accused of plotting with Lee Billi, 33, of suburban Cleveland. Authorities said Billi and the teenager exchanged e-mails in April, discussing simultaneous mass murders at the teen's high school and at another location that police haven't identified.

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Indiana Teen Accused of Plotting School Attack Charged with Conspiracy to Commit Murder Indiana Prosecutor Says 16-Year-Old Planned Columbine-Style Attack A search warrant affidavit filed to obtain a judge's approval to search Billi's computer and disks was unsealed Tuesday.

According to the documents, the teenager told authorities his violent thoughts began when his girlfriend broke up with him.

He chatted online with Billi about obtaining "party favors," a code name for guns and bombs, the documents say. An entry in the teen's notebook says they planned their attacks to be carried out on Sept. 11.

A message seeking comment was left after business hours Tuesday at the office of the teen's lawyer, James Nafe of South Bend, Ind.

Billi was arrested April 24 and has pleaded not guilty to two counts of conspiracy to commit murder, 38 counts of pandering sexually oriented matter involving a minor and one count of possessing criminal tools.

He is being represented by the Cuyahoga County public defender's office, and a message left there late Tuesday wasn't immediately returned.

Authorities said the plot was detected when a school officer investigating an unrelated threat discovered Internet postings in which the teen discussed his support for the Columbine High School shooters, who killed 12 classmates and a teacher before committing suicide in 1999.
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#969032 - 06/04/08 02:21 PM Re: Who raised this kid? kms
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oh, whoops!

thanks, kms.
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#969034 - 06/04/08 02:23 PM Re: Who raised this kid? kitten
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no problem, i forgot sick can be taken so many ways today, it could have meant cool too.
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#969035 - 06/04/08 02:23 PM Re: Who raised this kid? kms
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It is really scary what the kids of today are thinking of doing. Where have they learned this and what has happened to "normal" teenagers to make them have thoughts like this? Too much media exposure of the bad things happening in the world?

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#969039 - 06/04/08 02:24 PM Re: Who raised this kid? Ready to Retire
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I hope he finds himself in a padded cell somewhere and not left out on the streets.
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#969040 - 06/04/08 02:25 PM Re: Who raised this kid? Ready to Retire
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"society sucks!!!"

LOL what a rebel

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#969041 - 06/04/08 02:26 PM Re: Who raised this kid? Ready to Retire
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Nah I watchall of those foresic shows and fbi files etc and don't think "hey i can do that way better"
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#969088 - 06/04/08 02:45 PM Re: Who raised this kid? kms
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"I wanna break the current shooting record." Current shooting record? They're records now? What a horrible little kid.

"According to the documents, the teenager told authorities his violent thoughts began when his girlfriend broke up with him." Although understandable, most problems involve a woman (sorry, this is so creepy it needs levity!), Killing people is not the way to deal with rejection. Porn and a box of entenmans chocolate chip cookies is...

He chatted online with Billi about obtaining "party favors," a code name for guns and bombs, the documents say. Who comes up with these things?!?!?
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#969144 - 06/04/08 03:17 PM Re: Who raised this kid? FBH
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In my day, party favors were drugs and we had dreams of everybody partying together in harmony with the assistance of alcohol and dolls.

I wonder what's gotten in to these kids of today?
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#969153 - 06/04/08 03:28 PM Re: Who raised this kid? Bacon Boy
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They haven't been given the tools to understand how to lose. Around here, for young kids sports they don't keep score because they don't want to hurt the kids self-esteem. In doing that, they aren't teaching kids valuable lessons that come from winning and losing and how to properly deal with loses.

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#969194 - 06/04/08 03:59 PM Re: Who raised this kid? CB#3
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Excess, is that like my son coming home from the school talent show (required attendance) and told me that no one was allowed to laugh or they would get suspended? He said, "Mom, the kids really stink, and we have to say how great they are. Thant can't be healthy, can it??"
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#969230 - 06/04/08 04:29 PM Re: Who raised this kid? DeeQ
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Excess, is that like my son coming home from the school talent show (required attendance) and told me that no one was allowed to laugh or they would get suspended? He said, "Mom, the kids really stink, and we have to say how great they are. Thant can't be healthy, can it??"


We, as a society are really messing up our kids. Not being able to react at a talent show, not keeping score of sporting events?!?! Bizarre.

Life is all about putting yourself out there, reaching for the golden ring, knowing you can miss and fall flat on your face...But doing it anyway.

Like most people, I've learned more from my failures and mistakes than I have from my successes. If there's no risk of failure, why bother?

It sounds like we're teaching our children to be sheep, to conform and be boring and bland. I don't see any Thomas Jeffersons, Ben Franklins, George Washingtons or Nathaniel Greene's being produced by America anymore. Do you?

Baaaa....
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#969404 - 06/04/08 06:43 PM Re: Who raised this kid? FBH
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Wow, that kid has issues.

I agree that we really to coddle kids today. How on earth will they learn to pick themselves up if we never let them fall?

It is happening in my own family with all my younger cousins getting whatever they want, being snots and not really having consequences. Very sad.
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#969596 - 06/04/08 10:15 PM Re: Who raised this kid? Sing A Little
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See, this is why I put a beat down on my six year old when playing air hockey.

I'm doing my part to improve society.
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#969603 - 06/04/08 10:42 PM Re: Who raised this kid? Peepers
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my 5 yr old beats me at war daily. I am in trouble
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#969623 - 06/04/08 11:43 PM Re: Who raised this kid? kms
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my 5 yr old beats me at war daily. I am in trouble


this from a former member of the armed forces . . . scary!
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#969627 - 06/04/08 11:59 PM Re: Who raised this kid? rainman
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LMAO its the luck of the cards and his grandpa taught him to cheat!!!
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#969647 - 06/05/08 01:44 AM Re: Who raised this kid? texasbanker123
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"society sucks!!!"


another vote for Obama?
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#969740 - 06/05/08 01:36 PM Re: Who raised this kid? FBH
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Those were great point FBH, all true. This is the feel good society, we want to make sure everyone's feelings don't get hurt.
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#969812 - 06/05/08 02:32 PM Re: Who raised this kid? FBH
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It sounds like we're teaching our children to be sheep, to conform and be boring and bland. I don't see any Thomas Jeffersons, Ben Franklins, George Washingtons or Nathaniel Greene's being produced by America anymore. Do you?


That's one of the very reasons that our nation is no longer the most technologically advancing nation any more.

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#970403 - 06/05/08 10:07 PM Re: Who raised this kid? B_F
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It sounds like we're teaching our children to be sheep, to conform and be boring and bland. I don't see any Thomas Jeffersons, Ben Franklins, George Washingtons or Nathaniel Greene's being produced by America anymore. Do you?

That's one of the very reasons that our nation is no longer the most technologically advancing nation any more.

No, that's why we tolerate a guy like Carl Ichan breaking up great companies like TWA and Yahoo! for fun and profit.

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#971316 - 06/07/08 04:00 PM Re: Who raised this kid? buggs
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This is second attempt to post, deleted my first, turned into a very long rant about today's society.

I know this isn't PC, but some kids, need a swift kick in the butt. They need to be told that "Life is tough, buy a helmet and get over it".
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