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#975496 - 06/16/08 12:31 PM Obama slams absentee fathers...
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...in a speech on Father's Day. Condemnation was swift from the Republican Absentee Father's Caucus. "This is just another example of Democratic social engineering."

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#975506 - 06/16/08 01:02 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Hrothgar Geiger
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
...crickets...
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#975507 - 06/16/08 01:03 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Hrothgar Geiger
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Funny. I posted this same thing this morning, and it got deleted.
Wonder if some uptight anti-Obama moderator I know took it down.

I, of course, did point out that he slammed absent BLACK fathers in relation to some posters beliefs that Obama is racist against white folk.

Wonder how long this post is up now that I pointed out mine was removed.

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#975509 - 06/16/08 01:03 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Imagine
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
yes, it's all about you Neo, all about you...
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#975512 - 06/16/08 01:05 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Hrothgar Geiger
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080615/ap_on_el_pr/obama


Obama tells black fathers to engage their children


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Barack Obama celebrated Father's Day by calling on black fathers, who he said are "missing from too many lives and too many homes," to become active in raising their children.

"They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it," the Democratic presidential candidate said Sunday at a largely black church in his hometown.

Reminding the congregation of his firsthand experience growing up without a father, Obama said he was lucky to have loving grandparents who helped his mother. He got support, second chances and scholarships that helped him get an education. Obama's father left when he was 2.

"A lot of children don't get those chances. There is no margin for error in their lives," said Obama, an Illinois senator.

"I resolved many years ago that it was my obligation to break the cycle that if I could be anything in life, I would be a good father to my girls," added Obama, whose daughters, Sasha and Malia, and his wife, Michelle, watched from the audience.

Obama's appearance at the Apostolic Church of God was his first address to a church since he ended his membership at Trinity United Church of Christ, where he had worshipped for 20 years, following inflammatory remarks there by his former longtime pastor and others.

Obama frequently emphasized the importance of God in his life and ended the speech by asking the congregation to "Pray for me. Pray for Michelle."

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#975515 - 06/16/08 01:05 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: Happy Gilmore
yes, it's all about you Neo, all about you...


Considering I posted the same thing around 7am this morning and it is deleted...I think it is...

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#975518 - 06/16/08 01:08 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Imagine
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
there is a vast right-wing conspiracy to moderate all of your posts...it is in the MOD tenents that they all must sign and state out loud before becoming a MOD...
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#975523 - 06/16/08 01:10 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... HappyGilmore
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Happy, why did you disclose the secret??? Now everyone knows that I am a member of the BOLWYWTCCUT!
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#975528 - 06/16/08 01:11 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Imagine
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Originally Posted By: Imagine
Originally Posted By: Happy Gilmore
yes, it's all about you Neo, all about you...


Considering I posted the same thing around 7am this morning and it is deleted...I think it is...


:rubbing hands together-in evil voice:...Yes, yes..the plan is working!!! MUWHAHAHAHAHAHA
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#975529 - 06/16/08 01:11 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... DeeQ
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Originally Posted By: Devil Queen
Happy, why did you disclose the secret??? Now everyone knows that I am a member of the BOLWYWTCCUT!


your posting style gave you away years ago
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#975531 - 06/16/08 01:12 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: Happy Gilmore
there is a vast right-wing conspiracy to moderate all of your posts...it is in the MOD tenents that they all must sign and state out loud before becoming a MOD...


Conspiracy? No.
Just one ticked off Mod who I've butted heads with in here.

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#975534 - 06/16/08 01:16 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Imagine
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"this is all just an example of how insidious hussein obama is: he will try to lull the public to sleep by making statements like this and then *BAM!* once he is elected, his racist plans will come into full bloom! beware! i read his racist manifesto/book!"

-Bengalsfan

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#975537 - 06/16/08 01:17 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Hated By Some
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Neo-spare me the whine and cheese. The fact that you are still posting in here says a lot.
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#975539 - 06/16/08 01:20 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Hated By Some
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I'm trying to understand why someone would object to that speech. Fathers DO need to be engaged with their children - be part of their lives-care about them instead of just disappearing. Now those dads with no choice - ie in the military, etc... I don't believe he was talking about them.
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#975543 - 06/16/08 01:22 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... waldensouth
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because pointing out something constructive to society has a way off mitigating the right's quest to turn you into a pariah.

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#975544 - 06/16/08 01:23 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... TB 12
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Neo-spare me the whine and cheese. The fact that you are still posting in here says a lot.


The fact that you and your kind are still "obsessed" with me says a lot too.

Don't you have some mortgages to review?

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#975545 - 06/16/08 01:25 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... waldensouth
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Originally Posted By: waldensouth
I'm trying to understand why someone would object to that speech. Fathers DO need to be engaged with their children - be part of their lives-care about them instead of just disappearing. Now those dads with no choice - ie in the military, etc... I don't believe he was talking about them.


Walden,
Someone will object to the speech b/c of, at least, one of the following:

1) Obama is a Democrat.
2) Obama is black.
3) Obama said it in a distinct black Church
4) Obama is Obama

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#975549 - 06/16/08 01:27 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Imagine
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more obama shenanigans:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_on_el_pr/obama_hoop_dreams

seems innocuous enough until you leave out the part he was really thinking but didn't say (thus impossible to quote):

"i also like to play a sport where my black brethren really dominate whitey."

thanks to my friends here, i can finally read between the lines to find what this sleeper agent has up his sleeve.

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#975550 - 06/16/08 01:27 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Ronzilla
"this is all just an example of how insidious hussein obama is: he will try to lull the public to sleep by making statements like this and then *BAM!* once he is elected, his racist plans will come into full bloom! beware! i read his racist manifesto/book!"
-Bengalsfan


Close, but no cigar. However, I will say this. Obama once again ignores white fathers, asian fathers, and hispanic fathers who do the same things that black fathers do. He is engineering a racial divide yet again.

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#975552 - 06/16/08 01:29 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... waldensouth
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Originally Posted By: waldensouth
I'm trying to understand why someone would object to that speech. Fathers DO need to be engaged with their children - be part of their lives-care about them instead of just disappearing. Now those dads with no choice - ie in the military, etc... I don't believe he was talking about them.


Had Obama put it just that way, it would have been a great speech. However, he singled out black fathers, rather than ALL fathers.

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#975554 - 06/16/08 01:29 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... B_F
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He is engineering

oooo nice! the imagery of "engineering" is amazing. sounds so calculating! thank you for opening my eyes to this.

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#975555 - 06/16/08 01:31 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... B_F
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Originally Posted By: Bengalsfan

Close, but no cigar. However, I will say this. Obama once again ignores white fathers, asian fathers, and hispanic fathers who do the same things that black fathers do. He is engineering a racial divide yet again.


BF, I get that you're not an Obama fan, but this is reaching.

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#975556 - 06/16/08 01:32 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Imagine
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Originally Posted By: Imagine
Originally Posted By: Sox in 07
Neo-spare me the whine and cheese. The fact that you are still posting in here says a lot.


The fact that you and your kind are still "obsessed" with me says a lot too.

Don't you have some mortgages to review?


No, I find it hilarious you are complaining about having posts deleted, thats all.

And yes, I do have work to do. Note for the record it is related to the purpose of this site. Is today some type of political holiday for you?
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#975560 - 06/16/08 01:34 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... Imagine
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Bill Cosby said pretty much the same thing that Obama did, but more eloquently and at greater length. He was soundly ripped for doing so.

I agree with both him and Obama on this subject. What I object to is the forum in which Obama spoke on this subject. But it's not just him. Churches who allow political candidates to speak from their pulpits should have their tax-exempt status questioned. And that applies whether the candidate is conservative, liberal, or middle-of-the-road.
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#975561 - 06/16/08 01:34 PM Re: Obama slams absentee fathers... grmasterb
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Originally Posted By: Bengalsfan

Close, but no cigar. However, I will say this. Obama once again ignores white fathers, asian fathers, and hispanic fathers who do the same things that black fathers do. He is engineering a racial divide yet again.


BF, I get that you're not an Obama fan, but this is reaching.


Are you denying that children of all races need their fathers just as much? Or stating that absent fathers are unique to black families?

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