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#2227601 - 12/17/19 09:02 PM
Cash to Close Construction
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Am I correct that a construction loan to purchase the lot that construction cost show in the adjustment and other credits similar to the following:
Total closing costs: 5,000 Closing costs to be financed: 0 Down payment and other funds from borrower 10,000 Deposit: 0 Funds for borrower: -200,000 Seller credits: 0 Adjustments and other credits: 200,000 Estimated Cash to Close: 15,000
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#2227610 - 12/17/19 09:50 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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Or does it get factor into the funds from borrower and funds for borrower only?
Total closing costs: 5,000 Closing costs to be financed: 0 Down payment and other funds from borrower 10,000 Deposit: 0 Funds for borrower: 0 Seller credits: 0 Adjustments and other credits: 0 Estimated Cash to Close: 15,000
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#2227628 - 12/18/19 12:34 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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I will also point out that construction costs will be paid using future draws not put into a separate construction holdback account.
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#2227686 - 12/18/19 06:49 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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Dan Persfull did a VERY detailed explanation and examples of the different scenarios surrounding disclosure of construction loans.
If I can find it I'll come back and link it, but in the meantime, you may want to consider searching for it yourself!
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#2227689 - 12/18/19 06:51 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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https://www.bankersonline.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/2220816/Searchpage/2/Main/264704/Words/%22construction%22/Search/true/construction-loans-closing-disclosure#Post2220816
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#2227752 - 12/19/19 12:00 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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These examples did not show how it would roll up into the cash to close table. How would his example below show in the cash to close table?
Seller
Assumed Transaction:
Lot Purchase - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $35,000 Construction Costs - - - - - - - - - - - $240,000 Loan Amount - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $220,000 Closing Costs - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -$3,500
Standard Form
Borrower has made a $20,000 deposit with the builder.
Section K. Due from Borrower at Closing
Line 01 Sale Price of Property - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $35,000 Line 03 Closing Costs Paid at Closing (J) - - - - - - - - - $3,500
Adjustments
Line 05 Construction Costs to ABC Builder - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $240,000
Section L. Paid Already by or on Behalf of Borrower at Closing
Line 02 Loan Amount - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $220,000 Line 04 Deposit to ABC Builder POC (B) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $20,000
Calculations – Borrower’s side
Total Due from Borrower at Closing (K) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $278,500 Total Paid Already by or on Behalf of Borrower at Closing (L) - - - - - - ($240,000) Cash to Close X From _ To Borrower - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $38,500
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#2227841 - 12/20/19 12:45 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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Does anyone have any example cash to close tables they can provide for construction loans that involve the purchase of the lot? Thanks in advance.
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#2227843 - 12/20/19 01:33 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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What does your summaries of transactions look like? That populates the cash to close table and does your origination system not do it automatically? We don't know enough about the transaction to tell you what is correct and what is not.
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#2227851 - 12/20/19 02:36 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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I have one that I'm about to close on a loan amount of $100,000 with a lot purchase of $17,500
Total CC - $2416.50 Closing Costs Paid before Closing $0 Closing Costs Financed $0 Down Payment/Funds from borrower - $1750 Deposit - [-$2500]
Cash to Close - $1666.50
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#2227852 - 12/20/19 02:51 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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Like I indicated above - without knowing what the Summaries of Transactions looks like, there is no way to tell if the cash to close table is correct.
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#2227853 - 12/20/19 03:02 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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I just realized they wanted the example broken down in to the table. I really don't have time to do that for that specific example...I will lay out what my example would show in Summaries:
K01 $17,500 K03 $2,416.50 K04 $84,250 [remainder available to draw]
L02 $100,000
Calculation $104, 166.50 - 100,000.00
$1,666.50 Cash from
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#2227854 - 12/20/19 03:04 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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Where is your total construction costs and why would "an available to draw" be in the Summaries of Transactions?
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#2227855 - 12/20/19 03:30 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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This one did not have a contract. Probably not the best of examples for that reason, but it's the best one sitting in front of me at the moment.
Last edited by RR Joker; 12/20/19 03:31 PM.
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#2227856 - 12/20/19 03:45 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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You would still need estimated total construction costs so that the borrower was fully informed of their obligations - POC or not.
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#2227894 - 12/20/19 09:14 PM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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The above represents full disclosure, Randy.
17500 lot 84250 construction cost
$1750 down
total loan = $100,000
Last edited by RR Joker; 12/20/19 09:15 PM.
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#2227902 - 12/21/19 12:55 AM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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What should the cash to close table look like when the summary of transactions looks like this? Seller
Assumed Transaction:
Lot Purchase - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $35,000 Construction Costs - - - - - - - - - - - $240,000 Loan Amount - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $220,000 Closing Costs - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -$3,500
Standard Form
Borrower has made a $20,000 deposit with the builder.
Section K. Due from Borrower at Closing
Line 01 Sale Price of Property - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $35,000 Line 03 Closing Costs Paid at Closing (J) - - - - - - - - - $3,500
Adjustments
Line 05 Construction Costs to ABC Builder - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $240,000
Section L. Paid Already by or on Behalf of Borrower at Closing
Line 02 Loan Amount - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $220,000 Line 04 Deposit to ABC Builder POC (B) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $20,000
Calculations – Borrower’s side
Total Due from Borrower at Closing (K) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $278,500 Total Paid Already by or on Behalf of Borrower at Closing (L) - - - - - - ($240,000) Cash to Close X From _ To Borrower - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $38,500
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#2227964 - 12/24/19 12:00 AM
Re: Cash to Close Construction
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We have access to two softwares and they both show it differently. Trying to get an idea of which is correct.
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