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#2037025 - 09/03/15 11:56 AM Changed Circumstance - Rate Change
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On our home equity loans, we do not have a signed rate lock agreement with the customer but will honor a rate quoted at time of application. We also offer a 1/4% rate reduction if the borrower signs up for automatic payments. If at the time of application the borrower wants the auto-payment rate reduction but then later decides not to sign up for auto-payments, does that require redisclosure since the quoted rate on the LE will go up? The rate change may affect some fees, but I don't believe a "changed circumstance" event has occured allowing a revised LE since there is no signed "rate lock" agreement. Is this correct?

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#2037027 - 09/03/15 12:13 PM Re: Changed Circumstance - Rate Change Summer101
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Since you don't lock rates, there cannot be a changed circumstance re-disclosure of the LE relative to the rate in your scenario. You will simply provide a CloD that will reflect the actual rate.

Curious, what do you mean relative to this scenario by "The rate change may affect some fees..."?
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#2038327 - 09/14/15 04:41 PM Re: Changed Circumstance - Rate Change Jerod Moyer
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I mis-spoke - the fees won't change. Thank you for your response

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#2038404 - 09/14/15 07:54 PM Re: Changed Circumstance - Rate Change Summer101
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Our equity loans don"t "lock" but rather are the rate as of the date of application.
Does the first LE given have the box checked "yes" and that is the only LE they receive unless there is some other changed circumstance unrelated to the rate.
Yes?

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#2038414 - 09/14/15 08:12 PM Re: Changed Circumstance - Rate Change Summer101
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You don't lock so your box will be 'no'.
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#2038765 - 09/16/15 02:32 PM Re: Changed Circumstance - Rate Change Summer101
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Regarding whether this is a changed circumstance event, wouldn't this be considered a borrower requested change which would allow for re-disclosure of the LE?
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#2038794 - 09/16/15 02:54 PM Re: Changed Circumstance - Rate Change Summer101
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A change in the APR alone does not trigger a new LE.
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#2038826 - 09/16/15 03:47 PM Re: Changed Circumstance - Rate Change Summer101
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If you don't lock rates (mark no on LE rate lock) and they are essentially floating you just use the CD to disclose the actual rate? This appears to be the case even if it is outside of the APR tolerance threshold from what was disclosed on the LE. Even though it seems logical to think you would redisclose this using the LE it appears the reg only requires the actual rate be reflected on the CD.
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