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#606024 - 08/28/06 06:05 PM
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gee, $9500 to him is lunch to me...
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#606025 - 08/28/06 06:07 PM
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gee, $9500 to him is lunch to me...
It isn't the amount, it's how early he's making waves and not doing his best.
THIS is why Chad Johnson is a better receiver than TO. He may act like he thinks he is God's gift to football on the field, but unlike TO, off the field, he works his butt off year round to get better, study his opponents, etc.
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#606026 - 08/28/06 06:11 PM
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It isn't the amount, it's how early he's making waves and not doing his best.
I might buy that arguement if TO had not been booted from his last 2 teams for the very same reason. What you have is an egotistical owner, egotistical coach, and egotistical player, each thinking they're the bee's knees, and none willing to give an inch. Reminds me of the old fable of the scorpion and the toad...
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#606027 - 08/28/06 06:24 PM
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It isn't the amount, it's how early he's making waves and not doing his best.
I might buy that arguement if TO had not been booted from his last 2 teams for the very same reason. What you have is an egotistical owner, egotistical coach, and egotistical player, each thinking they're the bee's knees, and none willing to give an inch. Reminds me of the old fable of the scorpion and the toad...
I agree they are all egotistical, Happy, but what is there to "give" by Parcells or Jones? Jones gave TO 25 million and ANOTHER chance. All he has done is whine, and call attention to himself. Parcells is doing the right thing-no practice, no play. What message does that send if Parcells lets him do what he wants? I give Parcells credit for having the stones to stand up to him (as did the Eagles, to their credit).
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#606032 - 08/28/06 09:00 PM
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I'm tired of hearing about it. The NFL is becoming more of a "me" game than a "team" game. It is sad that our entertainment dollars go towards this, but it's the truth.
The guy is clearly the best receiver in the NFL. I think the media is making this a bigger deal than it actually is. He will clearly make the Cowboys a better team.
For these reasons, that's why the LLWS is so enjoyable to watch.
T.O. can make the Cowboys a better team if he plays and shuts up. He can make them a worse team just like he did with the Eagles if he becomes a distraction and causes tension in the locker room.
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#606034 - 08/28/06 09:43 PM
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The guy is clearly the best receiver in the NFL
He is a long way from the best in the NFL. His production and work ethic over the past 2 years put him at the middle of the pack, at best. If the 3 bozos involved would quit arguing via the media, maybe they could come to agreement and move forward. As long as they all play one-upsmanship for ESPN sound bites, no progress will be made.
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#606035 - 08/28/06 11:25 PM
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He is a long way from the best in the NFL. His production and work ethic over the past 2 years put him at the middle of the pack, at best.
Top 10, sure. I'll give him that. But you are absolutely correct in that he canot hold a candle to Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson, Tory Holt, Steve Smith, or Larry Fitzgerald.
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#606036 - 08/29/06 12:28 AM
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I have to speak up here. T.O., although an ass to manage is the most physically dominating wide receiver in the NFL. He is hte MOST gifted wide receiver on the planet. He only needs to figure out how to become a team player and not a jerk. As for his work ethic, T.O. trains more than any receiver in the NFL. He does his own workout and by appearance, it seems to work.
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#606037 - 08/29/06 01:12 AM
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I have to speak up here. T.O., although an ass to manage is the most physically dominating wide receiver in the NFL. He is hte MOST gifted wide receiver on the planet. He only needs to figure out how to become a team player and not a jerk. As for his work ethic, T.O. trains more than any receiver in the NFL. He does his own workout and by appearance, it seems to work.
Physical gifts are only a part of being a successful receiver. He may have the physical part down, but he lacks the work ethic and the mental part of the game to be the best. Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, Marvin Harrison; just three guys who are better than TO any day because of their work ethic. Chad Johnson will easily have a dozen more catches and 200 more yards than TO this season.
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#606039 - 08/29/06 04:56 PM
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There are two players in the NFL that I simply can not stand...Brett Favre and T.O.
T.O. will NOT change simply because he has 'grown up' and he never will. He will never take responsibility for his actions and in my opinion, LOVES the fact that he's in trouble and ADORES the fact that the media talks about him. He may say otherwise but his actions certainly tell a different story.
For that reason alone, I would love the opportunity to punch him in the jaw.
(And don't get me started on Brett Favre. It involves words not fit for this board. Or a lady. Even though I ain't a lady! haha)
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#606041 - 08/30/06 03:13 PM
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Yeah BF, I would bet Favre is wondering why the heck he came back? As for TO, I wish he would be let go and no other team would take him. Unless there was a substantial and well publicized cut in pay.
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#606043 - 08/30/06 03:23 PM
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Favre sure did show he should have retired Monday night, now didn't he!
On the other hand CARSON PALMER OH MY GOD!
He looked good, but please reserve the OMG comments for the regular season.
Actually, this game was more important to Carson Palmer's continued development than the regular season will be. He had to know he could look downfield when he felt the rush. He did. He had guys pulling his "bad" leg, and he still threw completions for first downs.
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#606044 - 08/30/06 05:57 PM
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Now, if Palmer could just play the Packers every game my fantasy team may stand a chance.
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#606045 - 08/30/06 06:10 PM
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Now, if Palmer could just play the Packers every game my fantasy team may stand a chance.
LOL Dude, you do remember that he had a better season last year than Manning and Brady, right?
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