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#138106 - 12/11/03 05:59 PM
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If they go on statistics - yes.
If they only look at his last game - no.
If stats are what they look at, where is that Kansas State running back? Sooner fans, what is his name again?
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#138108 - 12/11/03 06:58 PM
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Our Coach Saban just won the AP Coach of the Year award!!! Now let's hope my Tigers can win the AP Team of the Year award in January!!!!!
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#138110 - 12/11/03 07:15 PM
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Boomermom--He has 1948.
Even without the game against Oklahoma, he would have been the top rusher in the country. When was the last time the top rusher in the country was not in the top 5 in Heisman voting? I don't think it has ever happened. But it may in 2003. Some folks who voted prior to the KSU v. Sooner game, might have voted for Sproles if they had seen this game first. He has more than Turner of Northern Illinois (with their suspect schedule) who is #2. He has more than Knight of Boston College who is #3. And he has about 350 more yards than Heisman candidate Perry of Michigan who is 4th. All this with a strength of schedule slightly better than Oklahoma's (10 vs. 11).
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#138112 - 12/11/03 08:14 PM
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They don't know his name he was running way to far ahead of them.
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#138113 - 12/11/03 08:37 PM
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Sounds like some PR person wasn't doing his job and Perry's was.
That's just the point. Why don't they just give the Heisman to the best college PR guy. It would be more honest than calling it an award for the best player.
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#138114 - 12/11/03 08:43 PM
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Z- I agree wholeheartedly. The Heisman is nothing more than a popularity contest.
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#138115 - 12/11/03 08:43 PM
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Did you read that there will be no split national championship after the bowls? The polls will not ask coaches and writers to rank a #1 team because that team will already be crowned after the Sugar Bowl.
I suppose the voters could select either OU or LSU (depending on who wins) as their #2 and then not rank USC--with the assumption that they would have been their number 1 if given the chance.
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#138116 - 12/11/03 09:36 PM
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If they go on statistics - yes.
If they only look at his last game - no.
If stats are what they look at, where is that Kansas State running back? Sooner fans, what is his name again?
I watched Sproles every now and then and he was fantastic. ESPN knew who he was!!
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#138117 - 12/11/03 09:44 PM
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Z- where did you read that? I would be interested in reading that article. I think that's good. A "split national championship" is an oxymoron. They ought to run the BCS after the bowls, but they never will. They are afraid that the BCS will contradict itself . Think about it...what is the possibility that the winner of the Rose Bowl could be number 1 and ranked ahead of the sUGAr bowl winner, particularly if the Rose is a blowout and the sUGAr is close?
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#138119 - 12/11/03 10:23 PM
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In general, hogfan, I agree with you. However, Jason White has something like a 5 to 1 touchdown to interception ratio. Larry Fitzgerald holds the record for the most consecutive games with a touchdown. While there is certainly validity to the arguement of a supporting cast, at some point in every play, individual players make individual decisions. White decides where he wants to throw the ball. Fitzgerald decides how to beat a bump and run coverage. Manning is certainly deserving, but the other guys are, too. Every great player has a supporting cast. White can't throw for all those touchdowns if he's running for his life or on his can every play. Fitzgerald can't catch touchdown passes if his QB throws it to the other team all the time. If UGA's line wasn't so young, we may even be talking about David Greene for the Heisman (though he's no Jason White or Eli Manning). Greene had struggles of his own this year, apart from his line. The biggest beef I have with the Heisman is that it compares apples to oranges. QB's are not running backs and vice versa. Different skill requirements, different decision making requirements, etc.
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#138122 - 12/12/03 02:42 PM
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Well, I know that the ESPN/USA Today poll has an agreement to vote the winner of the BCS title game #1, but I don't think that agreement extends to the AP. This is such a joke. I hope Michigan wins the Rose Bowl.
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#138124 - 12/12/03 03:32 PM
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hogfan, I'm there with you on Eli. He did a lot for his team and the Ole Miss program in spite of the supporting cast. He is also a scholar athlete and has showed real class in his attitude on and off the field.
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