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#1925819 - 05/22/14 06:59 PM
Re: 50% of below average hurricane season
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They've been wrong on their fear predictions for the past 2 years (at least) so I'm guess now they are going the other direction?
Be very afraid!
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#1925821 - 05/22/14 07:00 PM
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My thoughts exactly
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#1925827 - 05/22/14 07:03 PM
Re: 50% of below average hurricane season
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we have La Nina this summer, so this seems more correct.
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#1925829 - 05/22/14 07:04 PM
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I thought over here we've had an El Nino. Can you have both? Of course, I'm not really sure what Mongolian weather is like to begins with.
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#1925856 - 05/22/14 07:24 PM
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Either way, looks like we could miss out on a strong storm hitting the US America coast.
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#1925861 - 05/22/14 07:30 PM
Re: 50% of below average hurricane season
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the scientific evidence says we're definitely putting more carbon into the atmosphere, that carbon absorbs heat, that's compounded with water vapor and a million more complex things and that's leading to global warming.
That being said, the predictions of what this will lead to are really hard to get exact (again, there's a million variables). especially trying to get specific things instead of overall trends.
And on top of that it's hard to figure out what the solution would work and what the unintended consequences of any potential solution would be.
My take: we should be going hardcore for solar, wind, WATER and ESPECIALLY nuclear power. Even if you through the environmental stuff out, if we get the alternative energies up and runnign we can step back from the middle east.
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#1925869 - 05/22/14 07:40 PM
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I am actually with you on this; The "my take part" but the lobbies will hit you on:
solar - Parts of the solar panel are made with fossil based oils and no storage wind - why do you wish to kill all all the birds?
WATER - disturb the fishes? ESPECIALLY nuclear power - see Japan
There is also the train of though that the Climate has been changing prior to man - See dinosaurs.
While using the above we can still use Fossil fuel and natural gas for transportation.
And where we disagree (my guess) is Coal - we ship coal around the world to be burnt. What is the difference if it is burnt in the US or in india or china.
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#1925874 - 05/22/14 07:43 PM
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The science behind batteries has not advanced much in the last 100 years. While we work our tails off trying to advance the alternative energy sources, all I have to say is drill and frack, here and now!!!
We will get energy independent from the middle east a whole lot quicker.
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#1925894 - 05/22/14 08:08 PM
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In the end it's all about the Benjamins. There are several companies advertising solar panels for your home here in CA. One proclaims (as if it is an advantage) that "you don't pay for the solar panels, you pay for the power you use." So instead of paying the electric company or paying that company once for the equipment, you pay them forever for sunlight.
And then there would be lost tax revenue by having people using self-sufficient energy sources.
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#1925908 - 05/22/14 08:14 PM
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I know the technology isn't there yet, but it seems like Solar just has to be the way in the future. I mean, in a way, most of the energy is solar energy anyways. It just passes through plants and then animals that eat those plants and then it sits in the ground for a million years. That cant be the most efficient way to convert it, right?
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#1925913 - 05/22/14 08:17 PM
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does this all mean I will be able to tan my fat white [censored] outside in Feb. soon?
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#1925920 - 05/22/14 08:23 PM
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I know the technology isn't there yet, but it seems like Solar just has to be the way in the future. I mean, in a way, most of the energy is solar energy anyways. It just passes through plants and then animals that eat those plants and then it sits in the ground for a million years. That cant be the most efficient way to convert it, right?
I do not think that we have found the holy grail of power yet but solar should be a big part of the short term solution. Just not the only answer.
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#1925924 - 05/22/14 08:25 PM
Re: 50% of below average hurricane season
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I know the technology isn't there yet, but it seems like Solar just has to be the way in the future. I mean, in a way, most of the energy is solar energy anyways. It just passes through plants and then animals that eat those plants and then it sits in the ground for a million years. That cant be the most efficient way to convert it, right?
The free market will determine that. At the point where other energies become too expensive the private sector will advance technology to the point of viability almost over night. These people getting subsidized have so far failed.... for 30 years to make it viable.
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#1925925 - 05/22/14 08:25 PM
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#1925944 - 05/22/14 08:35 PM
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The free market will determine that. At the point where other energies become too expensive the private sector will advance technology to the point of viability almost over night. These people getting subsidized have so far failed.... for 30 years to make it viable.
I agree on the free market settling it 90% of the time, but i think there's definitely biases in human psychology where we're not very good at considering consequences if they're not immediately noticeable.
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#1925947 - 05/22/14 08:38 PM
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99.9% would be my guess.
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#1925949 - 05/22/14 08:38 PM
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I'm awaiting the final version of the flux-capacitor
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#1925950 - 05/22/14 08:39 PM
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But Uncle Owen, I want to go to Toshi station and pick up some power converters.
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#1925951 - 05/22/14 08:39 PM
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think about this: if a time machine is EVER possible, it's ALREADY possible.
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#1925970 - 05/22/14 09:05 PM
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We will be energy independent of the middle east oil sheiks by 2020, at the rate of technology advances occurring in fracking and horizontal drilling. And proven reserves estimates are going up at a rate that we have enough oil and gas for a couple of centuries. That should be enough time to figure out the alternatives.
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