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#2126867 - 04/18/17 09:51 PM Cash Out for Down Payment
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Refinancing investment property, plus extra cash for down payment on additional investment properties (not identified). I can't remember if the cash out would be reportable in general since intent is to purchase. If so, then this loan would be reported as a purchase, right?

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#2126871 - 04/18/17 10:11 PM Re: Cash Out for Down Payment George
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Under current HMDA, purchase trumps refi and a property does NOT have to be identified. You know that's what they intend to do with the money so document your file and mark it as purchase for HMDA.

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#2126920 - 04/19/17 01:05 PM Re: Cash Out for Down Payment George
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Thank you, that was kind of my train of thought. Just couldn't remember if down payment loan is reportable or not.

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#2126955 - 04/19/17 02:24 PM Re: Cash Out for Down Payment George
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Don't understand 'down payment loan'.
It's a cash-out refinance to start but it turns to purchase for HMDA because that's what the cash out will be used for.

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#2127001 - 04/19/17 04:25 PM Re: Cash Out for Down Payment George
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down payment loan=funds used for down payment. My hold up on it was the fact that the additional funds are only used for a down payment. Even though I know the intent of the funds are to ultimately go towards a purchase, I wasn't sure if funds just to put a down payment would qualify as a purchase.

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#2127040 - 04/19/17 05:27 PM Re: Cash Out for Down Payment George
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From Appendix D to GIR: Second mortgages that finance the downpayments on first mortgages. If an institution making a first mortgage loan to a home purchaser also makes a second mortgage loan to the same purchaser to finance part or all the home purchaser’s downpayment, the institution reports each loan separately as a home purchase loan.

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#2127094 - 04/19/17 08:14 PM Re: Cash Out for Down Payment George
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That's not what this is tho, hmdagal.
The OP said they're refinancing their current mortgage with additional money out to use as down payment on a future purchase.
So first glance this is a refi till you identify that the cash out is either purchase or HI which would trump refi. (in current HMDA only)

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#2127111 - 04/19/17 08:44 PM Re: Cash Out for Down Payment George
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Quote:
I wasn't sure if funds just to put a down payment would qualify as a purchase.


George seemed to be looking for confirmation that if funds were used for a down payment on a home the application was reportable as a purchase. While his specific scenario was a little different from the example, I thought the information may be helpful.

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#2127234 - 04/20/17 02:37 PM Re: Cash Out for Down Payment George
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hmdagal, you are correct, I was looking for confirmation so that I report my particular loan correctly. Truffle, you have also been a tremendous help, I appreciate you both!

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