Thanks for clarifying, Randy! I just found that in the commentary as well:
4. New advances. The exemption in §226.23(f)(2) applies only to refinancings (including consolidations) by the original creditor. The original creditor is the creditor to whom the written agreement was initially made payable.
Is this still the case if we are the original lender in a purchase transaction (no rescission given initially) and we are renewing the loan for 30 days - no new money, no rate change, no change in terms - I would not consider this a refinance. However, even if it is coinsidered a refi, is rescission applicable given the fact that they haven't ever been given the chance to rescind? Or can I can follow the no rescission rule because it meets the defition of refiance.