FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts

Posted By: Mary Beth Guard

FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 01:06 PM

FDIC just announced a new Temporary Liquidity Guarantee program.

-- All banks and some holding companies are eligible;
-- part of it entails FDIC guaranteeing newly issued senior unsecured debt;
-- the other part involves providing FULL COVERAGE of non-interest bearing deposit transaction accounts REGARDLESS OF DOLLAR AMOUNT.

Participation in the plan is voluntary and automatic for the first 30 days. A company may opt out within the 30 days if it doesn't want to participate on a go-foward basis. We have a call in to the FDIC to learn more about the process of participating versus opting out.

No fee for the first thirty days. Fees after that.

The guarantee of the deposit accounts is temporary. It expires at the end of 2009.

We're putting out a special briefing later today with more details and I'll be covering this (and the increase to $250,000 and all the other recent changes by FDIC and NCUA) in a webinar tomorrow morning -- 10:30 a.m. central time, Wednesday, October 15, 2008.

[url=Webinar info]http://calendar.bollearningconnect.com/main.php?view=event&eventid=1223402341172[/url]

Posted By: Pale Rider

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 02:14 PM

and there is a pot of $125 billion for equity injections for potentially any bank seeking a capital injection; that will take care of the first $250 billion of the rescue package

won't President Bush be required to seek approval for the next $100 billion?

what a time to be alive!!!!
Posted By: RR Joker

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 02:54 PM

and their conferece was already at capacity 15 mintues before start time (at least)
Posted By: Mary Beth Guard

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 02:55 PM

Originally Posted By: RR joker
and their conferece was already at capacity 15 mintues before start time (at least)


Tell me about it! We thought we were calling in EARLY and look what happened.
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 02:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Mary Beth Guard
-- the other part involves providing FULL COVERAGE of non-interest bearing deposit transaction accounts REGARDLESS OF DOLLAR AMOUNT.

Participation in the plan is voluntary and automatic for the first 30 days. A company may opt out within the 30 days if it doesn't want to participate on a go-foward basis. We have a call in to the FDIC to learn more about the process of participating versus opting out.

No fee for the first thirty days. Fees after that.

The guarantee of the deposit accounts is temporary. It expires at the end of 2009.

The fee is 10bps - is that 10bps on your entire assessment base, or 10bps of non-interest bearing demand deposits, or 10bps of the insured amount (which could fluctuate wildly)? If it's 10bps of the assessment base, who would not opt out of that?!
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 03:53 PM

It appears to be the insured amount:
Quote:
For non-interest-bearing transaction deposit accounts, a 10 basis point surcharge would be applied to non-interest-bearing transaction deposit accounts not otherwise covered by the existing deposit insurance limit of $250,000. This surcharge will be added to the participating bank's existing risk-based deposit insurance premium paid on those deposits.

I don't think they can get this from anything that is currently on the call report, so they'll be asking us to track it differently somehow.
Posted By: Reads Regs

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 04:57 PM

The FDIC updated their press release about the temporary liquidity program to include a link to the technical briefing they gave this morning for the media. Here's a link to the press release.

http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2008/pr08100.html Scroll down the page and you'll find a link to the video. I'm having trouble getting it to load on my PC.
Posted By: Kay

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 06:48 PM

Does anyone know if the verbiage for the FDIC signage will change based on today's action?
Posted By: Marnie

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 07:08 PM

What is definition of "senior unsecured debt"?
Posted By: Mary Beth Guard

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 07:32 PM

Here is the special briefing BankersOnline put out earlier today that summarizes:
-- the temporary coverage of non-interest bearing transaction accounts;
-- the basics of the debt guarantees;
-- the changes FDIC made last week to deposit insurance coverage of mortgage servicing accounts.

Plus, it has a link to some coverage-related signage that we created and put into our Banker Tools section AND a compilation of threads on insurance coverage issues.

We also have new e-cards in a new Bailout section.

BankersOnline Special Briefing
Posted By: John Burnett

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 07:37 PM

There is currently no guidance from the FDIC on signage changes for this latest wrinkle.
Posted By: Marnie

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 07:46 PM

What is definition of "senior unsecured debt"? Senior versus what?
Posted By: rhurlbert

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 09:18 PM

I am wondering how this will impact coverage amount if there are interest and non-interest bearing accounts in the same category of coverage at the same bank.
For example, if a bank opts out of the coverage, it is simple - it is just $250,000 in that category, regardless of account type. But what if a bank chooses to participate and there is two sole owned, non-pod accounts: one certificate of deposit with $200,000 and one non-interest checking with $200,000. Does it all get covered because the interest bearing account gets to use the regular coverage first and the non-interest account gets covered under the new rule - - or - - does the non-interest bearing account get covered first and there would be $150,000 of the interest bearing account uncovered? Hopefully it is the first of those two possibilities.
Posted By: RBanker

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/14/08 10:01 PM

Poor EDIE will be pulling her hair out..............
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/15/08 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Marnie
What is definition of "senior unsecured debt"? Senior versus what?

"Seniority" refers to the priority of the debt (who gets paid first) and would be addressed in the issuing documents. It's senior to the subordinate debt - clear? The seniority of unsecured debt can impact whether you get to count it as regulatory capital.
Posted By: Reads Regs

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/15/08 03:27 PM

Originally Posted By: rhurlbert
But what if a bank chooses to participate and there is two sole owned, non-pod accounts: one certificate of deposit with $200,000 and one non-interest checking with $200,000. Does it all get covered because the interest bearing account gets to use the regular coverage first and the non-interest account gets covered under the new rule - - or - - does the non-interest bearing account get covered first and there would be $150,000 of the interest bearing account uncovered? Hopefully it is the first of those two possibilities.


I think it would be the first of those two possibilities.
Posted By: Tesla

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/15/08 08:13 PM

Has anyone heard if the FDIC is going to issue anything on this besides the Press Releases? My bank is waiting for "something" before they take any action.
Posted By: Mary Beth Guard

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/16/08 03:03 AM

Originally Posted By: SkiDoo
Has anyone heard if the FDIC is going to issue anything on this besides the Press Releases? My bank is waiting for "something" before they take any action.


FDIC has announced that they have created a special web page on which they intend to post additional information on the recordkeeping, billing and reporting aspects of the program, including the procedure for how institutions may opt out. The address is
http://www.fdic.gov/tlgp/

All that's up there right now is the fact sheet, the press release, Chairman Bair's statement, and the audio file of the technical briefing. More to come . . .
Posted By: CalifDreamin

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/16/08 03:12 PM

I can't get the briefing to load...we are listening in to the one today. Has anyone heard what the opt-out procedures are going to be? I didn't see anything yet on that link above.
Posted By: ktac MITCH

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/16/08 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Reads Regs
Originally Posted By: rhurlbert
But what if a bank chooses to participate and there is two sole owned, non-pod accounts: one certificate of deposit with $200,000 and one non-interest checking with $200,000. Does it all get covered because the interest bearing account gets to use the regular coverage first and the non-interest account gets covered under the new rule - - or - - does the non-interest bearing account get covered first and there would be $150,000 of the interest bearing account uncovered? Hopefully it is the first of those two possibilities.


I think it would be the first of those two possibilities.


I would agree with the first
Surely, the logic of different categories of coverage that has been in place (indiv / POD / Trust / etc) would apply and this new "Non-Int with No Limit" is a separate category.
Posted By: Night Train

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/23/08 07:07 PM

I have a question about the fact all eligible entities will be covered under the program and may choose to opt out. Does this mean we're automatically "IN" and must "OPT OUT"? This is a question from a member of Sr. Mgmt. My FI does not want to participate in this program.
Posted By: Reads Regs

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/23/08 08:56 PM

Everyone that is an "eligible institution" is in for the first 30 days without a fee. You must opt-out on or before 11/12/08 if you don't want to participate. You opt-out via FDIC connect. See today's FDIC Board Meeting notice. http://www.fdic.gov/news/board/noticeOct232008.html

Follow the links to the draft of the interim rule. I would think that the FDIC wouldn't have posted links to the document if the Board didn't approve them today. The FDIC has yet to send out an e-mail on this.
Posted By: Reads Regs

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/23/08 10:39 PM

Here's a link to the FIL they just issued. http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/financial/2008/fil08110.html
Posted By: RR Sarah

Re: FDIC to temp. cover ALL funds in certain accounts - 10/24/08 06:36 PM

I read in ICBA's Newswatch that if we opt out not only will our name be on the list on the FDIC's website but that we would then have to notify our customers that we would not be participating.