Seller Fees on Buyers CD

Posted By: Refresher2020

Seller Fees on Buyers CD - 09/14/20 08:29 PM

What are the requirements for seller fees on the buyers CD? We have a title company that is refusing to provide seller fees because they say they're not required. I thought seller fees were to disclosed in section H of the CD. Am i missing something?
Posted By: rlcarey

Re: Seller Fees on Buyers CD - 09/14/20 08:42 PM

All seller closing costs have to appear on the buyer's CD, regardless of what section they appear - send them this link:


https://www.consumerfinance.gov/pol...sure-faqs/#providing-closing-disclosures

1. If separate Closing Disclosures are provided to the seller and the consumer, does the TRID Rule require that seller-paid Loan Costs and Other Costs be disclosed on page 2 of the consumer’s Closing Disclosure?


Yes, the TRID Rule requires seller-paid Loan Costs and Other Costs to be disclosed on page 2 of the consumer’s Closing Disclosure even if separate Closing Disclosures are provided to the seller and consumer. A creditor does not comply with the TRID Rule if it discloses seller-paid Loan Costs and Other Costs only on page 2 of the Closing Disclosure provided to the seller. 12 CFR § 1026.38(f) and (g); 1026.38(t)(5)(v) and (t)(5)(vi).

See Section 11.7 of the Small Entity Compliance Guide for more information about the modifications allowed when separating the seller and consumer’s Closing Disclosures.
Posted By: Refresher2020

Re: Seller Fees on Buyers CD - 09/14/20 08:48 PM

Thank you rlcarey! This is will definitely get the message across!
Posted By: Truffle Royale

Re: Seller Fees on Buyers CD - 09/15/20 03:00 PM

Two questions:
1) Any chance the title company is talking about the fees shown on page 3 of the CD like loan payoff amounts, etc?
2) is this a one off situation where the seller doesn't want the buyer to see some payoffs OR is it this title company's SOP? 99% of sellers have nothing to hide and likely don't care if the buyer sees their mortgage payoff.
Posted By: Refresher2020

Re: Seller Fees on Buyers CD - 09/15/20 10:53 PM

Truffle, it was the seller's title company that was giving us a hard time. The buyer and seller were being represented separately. The buyer title company that was supplying the information to us was having a hard time with the seller title company. Thanks to rlcarey's quick response the seller title company fell in line and gave us what we needed.
Posted By: John Burnett

Re: Seller Fees on Buyers CD - 09/16/20 02:15 PM

After so many years of TRID, the word on this has still not reached all the third parties who can create compliance problems through their ignorance.
Posted By: Refresher2020

Re: Seller Fees on Buyers CD - 09/16/20 09:47 PM

Yes John, I agree. I'm very new to TRID so it's extra frustrating trying to fight these situations while I'm still trying to take it all in and learn.
Posted By: Truffle Royale

Re: Seller Fees on Buyers CD - 09/21/20 03:20 PM

separate title companies??? I've never seen/heard that!
Posted By: rlcarey

Re: Seller Fees on Buyers CD - 09/21/20 04:20 PM

Might be more prevalent in States that do not have a simultaneous issue discount.