McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll
Posted By: TheManofSteel
McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/07/08 11:51 PM
Posted By: kms
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 12:02 AM
i am sorry but that is not a credible source
Posted By: Fraudman CFCI
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 12:33 AM
Why? Because it is not CNN or the drive-by media's poll? It is so early that polls will be all over the place.
No matter which poll is published they are all skewed by questions asked. Few are credible.
Posted By: Truffle Royale
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 12:50 AM
I'm fairly certain kms was speaking tongue in cheek, Fraud Pup. Just forgot to put the in.
Posted By: Bimmer
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 01:53 AM
Perhaps that trend in the polls will continue of Obamamessiah keeps misspeaking.
ST. LOUIS, Mo. - Sen. Barack Obama's foes seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue, when the Democratic presidential nominee was outlining his Christianity but accidentally said, "my Muslim faith."
The three words -- immediately corrected -- were during an exchange with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week," when he was trying to criticize the quiet smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim.
Posted By: MagicCity
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 11:13 AM
We can only hope that Obama wins in the end.
Blustery bravado and cowboy soundbites is what we have had for the last eight years, and look at where it got us!
I would take an educated and thoughtful person any day over the shallowness of McCain and Palin.
Posted By: TheManofSteel
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 12:59 PM
I would take an educated and thoughtful person any day
Then you certainly do not want a rogue like the master of fabrication, Obama.
Posted By: Hrothgar Geiger
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 01:30 PM
Billions in government spending,
years of deficits,
no balanced budgets,
a continuing debt burden on American families.
They’re ready to borrow,
ready to spend,
but not ready to lead.
Posted By: MB Guy
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 01:31 PM
We can only hope that Obama wins in the end.
Blustery bravado and cowboy soundbites is what we have had for the last eight years, and look at where it got us!
I would take an educated and thoughtful person any day over the shallowness of McCain and Palin.
MC, can you give us some examples of this shallowness?
Posted By: Pale Rider
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 01:32 PM
Obama might have been a bit more thoughtful over the weekend before saying McCain was attacking his Muslim faith..... just sayin'......
Posted By: MagicCity
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 01:48 PM
<<MC, can you give us some examples of this shallowness?>>
Sarah Palin
Posted By: MB Guy
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 01:50 PM
<<MC, can you give us some examples of this shallowness?>>
Sarah Palin
No, seriously. There are many undecideds on here (not me of course), so if you want to sway them, here's your chance.
Posted By: The OG Zaibatsu
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 02:05 PM
Billions in government spending,
years of deficits,
no balanced budgets,
a continuing debt burden on American families.
They’re ready to borrow,
ready to spend,
but not ready to lead.
Billions in government spending,
Obama makes no apologies about the billions more he'll spend years of deficits,
Where will this money come from in an Obama presidency? no balanced budgets,
As proposed by Obama, the only way it will balance is by taxing the $%*# out of Americans a continuing debt burden on American families.
Yep, tax and spend Obama is the answer to this They’re ready to borrow,
Obama will not borrow, he'll just take. ready to spend,
Obama again makes no apologies about his readiness to spend. but not ready to lead.
You can only judge a leader by what he has lead in the past. What has Obama led in the past? AML: What is your point? Are you talking about all politicians, Obama included. Or are you being a bit blind?
Posted By: MagicCity
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 02:33 PM
<<MC, can you give us some examples of this shallowness?>>
Sarah Palin
No, seriously. There are many undecideds on here (not me of course), so if you want to sway them, here's your chance.
You're right...
But it's Monday morning in the banking world...
and I am a little short for time right now...
I'll respond a little later on....
Posted By: MB Guy
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 02:33 PM
Sounds reasonable. Buried here too!
Posted By: Hrothgar Geiger
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 02:34 PM
Jimmy Ringo,
My point is that neither candidate has shown a plan for balanced budgets, or for deficit reduction. Sen. McCain deserves the "Big Brass Ones" award for criticizing Sen. Obama on topics that he himself has not addressed.
Neither candidate has a plan to balance the budget, both candidates will increase the deficit. Sen. McCain seems to think that borrowing more money is the appropriate way to finance his programs.
Secondly, the Brookings Institute has published an analysis of both candidates' tax proposals.
Read it here. Both candidates' plans seem to reduce taxes overall.
Posted By: Sound Tactic
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 02:45 PM
Jimmy Ringo,
My point is that neither candidate has shown a plan for balanced budgets, or for deficit reduction. Sen. McCain deserves the "Big Brass Ones" award for criticizing Sen. Obama on topics that he himself has not addressed.
Neither candidate has a plan to balance the budget, both candidates will increase the deficit. Sen. McCain seems to think that borrowing more money is the appropriate way to finance his programs.
Secondly, the Brookings Institute has published an analysis of both candidates' tax proposals.
Read it here. Both candidates' plans seem to reduce taxes overall.
Then how will Barak pay for all of the massive social programs he has planned? And you criticize McCain? Maybe McCain will stop funding the UN
Posted By: The OG Zaibatsu
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 02:46 PM
I scanned the document. I think Obama's spending promises would cost much, much more than his tax plan can provide. Is he just another politician making empty promises to satisfy his base? McCain's tax cuts would be much higher according to Brookings. Did they also analyze each candidates spending promises to see if their tax plans will support it? Did I miss this in my brief scan of the Brookings report?
Though I don't like runaway spending, I've never put much stock in balancing the budget...whatever that means. I do think that, in times of war and natural disasters, spending is going to be higher, but Bush could've used the veto pen more often.
Posted By: kms
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 02:49 PM
Thanks TR, it wsa sarcasm. I get beat up quite a bit from where I post from from, I was just giving Chris aome grief
Posted By: Hrothgar Geiger
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 02:55 PM
JR,
The Brookings analysis just covers the tax proposals, they didn't attempt to balance spending proposals against tax proposals.
I've not finished reading the tax analysis yet, so far, it seems to me that both candidates have promised to cut taxes, but that it's a little more gray who cuts them more. We'll see as I read further.
Posted By: BurntSienna
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 02:56 PM
Oh good grief, it was a slip of the tongue. Get over it. Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.
Certainly, President Bush has made many slips of the tongue over the years. For example, "Throughout our history, the words of the Declaration have inspired immigrants from around the world to set sail to our shores. These immigrants have helped transform 13 small colonies into a great and growing nation of more than 300 people." --George W. Bush
Certainly, John McCain has made many slips of the tongue over the years. For example, his statement that "Shiite Iran is training Sunni Al Qaeda members in Iraq" which the McCain campaign attributed merely to the fact that John McCain
"misspoke and immediately corrected himself".
Does President Bush know there are more than 300 citizens in the U.S.? I hope so, and I believe so; it was simply a slip of the tongue. Does Senator McCain know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite? I hope so, and I believe so; it was simply a slip of the tongue.
Is Senator Obama secretly a member of the Muslim faith? Nope, I don't think so; it was simply a slip of the tongue. Anyone who reads more into it is truly being disingenuous.
This sort of fear-mongering and ridiculous partisanship has got to stop. It's ugly and it's beneath who we are and what we're capable of as a great nation.
Posted By: #Just Jay
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 03:17 PM
Popularity polls are essentially meaningless... have we seen any really good current electoral maps yet?
Posted By: kms
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 03:21 PM
I would like to see that myself. I have volunteered for the Mccain campaign and with Fred PAC. But down here in texas I doubt they will have much use for me.
Posted By: Jokerman
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 03:24 PM
Popularity polls are essentially meaningless... have we seen any really good current electoral maps yet?
States that are pretty evenly divided will generally follow the trend in the national polls. Given that you can't practically poll Ohio (for example) every day, the national polls are a good clue as to what's happening there.
McCain's undeniably received a big bounce, much bigger than I would have expected. The key for the Obama camp is to not panic, not look desparate - it will dissipate, unless they compound the problem by making mistakes (like running against Palin, the way they have for the last ten days).
Posted By: KTMiteComply
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 03:24 PM
have we seen any really good current electoral maps yet?
I miss Tim Russert and his board!
Posted By: kms
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 03:26 PM
To me, and it is just my opinion, the dems have been falling apart the last few days and if they don't get it together soon, Obama can go back to being a senator.
Posted By: waldensouth
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 03:33 PM
Well, whoever wins this election will have a moment in history that cannot ever be repeated - a first is always first! Its kinda sad that women have been "real citizens" with the right to vote since the '20s and African-American males have had the right to vote and have been full citizens even longer and this is the first that we are guaranteed to have one of these folks representing us in the highest 2 positions in the land.
Good thing about this - If your candidate doesn't win and you're stuck with the other person OR if your candidate doesn't measure up to your expectations, we can all take comfort in the fact that we've elected poorly qualified candidates, idiots, the inept, and just plain nasty people in the past but this country always manages to survive them.
I think this year our local and congressional elections will be more important that ever. I hope we don't lose focus on those elections because of the hype over our presidential race.
Posted By: Snow Bunny
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 03:33 PM
To me, and it is just my opinion, the dems have been falling apart the last few days and if they don't get it together soon, Obama can go back to being a senator.
Let's hope!
Kaytee - Hubby & I were saying the same thing during the conventions. Can't you just see him sitting up on a cloud with his white board plotting out all of the possibilities?
Posted By: KTMiteComply
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 03:40 PM
Pooh...I surely can! And not only that but I would have LOVED to see his face and reaction whenever Palin was announced and then after the Convention! What excitement and insight he would have had! Plus fair and accurate reporting along with some very tough questions that I would have welcomed!!!!
Posted By: B_F
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 03:44 PM
Pooh...I surely can! And not only that but I would have LOVED to see his face and reaction whenever Palin was announced and then after the Convention! What excitement and insight he would have had! Plus fair and accurate reporting along with some very tough questions that I would have welcomed!!!!
Do we need a separate "We miss Russert" thread?
Posted By: Snow Bunny
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 03:50 PM
Possibly. He was a great commentator. I think his white board is now at the Smithsonean.
Posted By: kms
Re: McCain Pulls Ahead of Obama in Poll - 09/08/08 03:53 PM