Patriot's owner implicated in sex sting operation

Appears that Robert Kraft is one of over 100 men that has been implicated in a sex sting operation out of Jupiter, FL. Every single person is captured on video.Depending which news source you follow, it is everything from solicitation up to human trafficking...here is one of the more tame reports

https://www.nola.com/saints/2019/02/patr...ida-report.html

Good lord [without even reading it]

Were the patriot staff the ones with the video cameras? They seem to have experience taping things.

Well at least he can tell Girlfreind Ricki Noel Lander it not cheating

I am not a Pats fan, but my daughter is, and I asked her "Doesn't he have people to take care of that sort of thing for him?"

I am disappointed in you ed. I was expecting a comment relating to deflation.

Lawyers for Kraft are claiming that it could not him because his football was deflated.

Better?

Meh. I give it a C-

That's the same thing we thought. Seriously, he has more than enough money that he shouldn't be going to some seedy massage parlor, sheesh man. Although, I think that seediness is part of the excitement that he was probably seeking. Sad, really.

If I was a true Pats fan, I'd feel really deflated about the entire situation. Hopefully no one will think that because he was cheating on his girlfriend, that cheating is something that the entire organization is capable of.

he did deny it so he must be inocent

If FB said so...then yeah.

It is sad and he should pay the price if found guilty. Embarrassing.

if found guilty i wonder if he will have to divest himself of the team...

I do not think so he will most likely get a slap on the .... Wrist, yes wrist.

Is soliciting prostitution a felony?

Seems like an embarrassment for him for sure, but i wouldn't think it ought to be the end of his role with the team...but heck, what do i know.

Lose the team for a misdemeanor charge? OK. He will probably face a fine and a suspension as Robert Irsay did when he was charged with DWI and having a suitcase full of cash and drugs.

If NFL players assault women and receive only a slap on the wrist from the NFL, I would think a misdemeanor of solicitation wouldn't be grounds for losing the franchise.

Scenario 1: It was "just" prostitution. (Slap on the wrist)

Scenario 2: Kraft and other rich and powerful men used their wealth and power to bankroll the exploitation of hundreds of victims of human trafficking. (More than a slap on the wrist)

We'll see how the public/NFL/law enforcement view it. If anyone actually cares about human trafficking there will be more coming out about this story.

His ego will likely just be a bit deflated for awhile.

Risk - I agree it is a horrible case of human trafficking, the traffickers should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and the case should be used to bring public awareness. I doubt however that Kraft or any other wealthy men are involved in a cabal to bring slaves to the country. More than likely it was the owner of the parlor who trafficked those women into the country.

prostitution and human trafficking are not the same, and should not be intermingled as such. there may be times when both are present, but they are not the same.

There is some indication that in this case, trafficking was involved. I think there is still a lot of untold story out there. But whether someone like Kraft would have known about it is a different question.

I have very little sympathy for the "Johns" in this situation and feel that the fact that they are "just" paying the man who trafficked these women does not completely remove them from responsibility for the crime of trafficking. I don't care if they are famous or not, participating in these acts when there is a very high probability that the victim is not doing so on their own free will is an abomination and should be treated as much more than just a misdemeanour crime.

I agree with thomasj, and will go further and say I have absolutely NO sympathy for these "Johns" in these cases because if it wasn't for their demand, the $ex trafficking wouldn't be nearly as pervasive as it is.

6 of one, half a dozen of the other.....the "johns" wouldn't be able to demand anything if the supply wasn't there.

I just think sex trafficking and prostitution are 2 totally different things....a prostitute (at least in my eyes) is in the profession by choice. A victim of sex trafficking isn't a prostitute....because she didn't get to make the choice.

And i know nothing of the details of Kraft's situation....if trafficking is involved, throw the book at whomever should have it thrown at them.

The equipment manager or the ball guy?

Yes.

While I agree that prostitution may be a choice made by certain individuals and they may be doing that of their own free will, I don't believe that most "Customers" have the means or in many cases the desire to verify or confirm that this is the case. I think that the facts in this situation would lead a reasonable person to assume that there was at least some possibility that the women who were working at the establishment in question may not be there entirely on their own free will. This may be a case of "Willful Blindness".

perhaps a man of discerning tastes, such as Mr. Kraft surely is, carries with him a small list of questions to ask potential "masseuses" to ascertain whether they are their voluntarily (I'm putting myself through school) or if they are there against their will (no english, you want #1 or #2? #3 cost extra).

I wonder if he had them fill out a benificial ownership form and followed basic KY(?) recommendations.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/28/how-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-could-get-off-in-prostitution-case/

That just reads SO wrong.

Hence the no commentary on my part

The Puns would just be to easy

I was listening to Golic & Wingo this morning and am completely confused by this deal. The warrant was for sex trafficking, which evidently didn't happen? Prosecutors were making deals with those charged with solicitation, which was a slap on the hand. Will Kraft actually get off clean from this deal (except for negative PR in the media)?

Must. Resist. Urge. For. Punny. Comments.

have not given this any thought since it first was reported, and have no idea the charges or deals that are being proposed/negotiated. however, it is rare that the "john" in a prostitution sting is given anything more than a slap on the hand, if even that.

I honestly believe that Kraft did engage in the solicitation, but that because of the way the investigation was handled, will get off clean due to due process technicalities. I don't believe that Kraft was, in any way, affiliated with any sex trafficking (if any even occurred in this instance, which apparently is under question now), as his services were performed by the owners of the business, not by any of the hired help. I get that anyone that participates in a prostitution transaction can be at least tangentially connected to sex trafficking, but if you use that as the basis, so could anyone who has looked at any porn picture in a magazine or on the internet. That isn't a strong enough standard to charge someone with involvement in sex trafficking.