Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate

Posted By: Bimmer

Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 07:54 PM

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0407/Obama_Ditches_CBCFox_Debate.html
Posted By: TB 12

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 07:59 PM

Very interesting-I wonder what that is all about.
Posted By: kms

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:02 PM

The commentaries after the article were pretty funny.
Posted By: Imagine

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:07 PM

b/c Faux News/Fox Noise is the outlet that ran the fake "Obama's A Terrorist" story.

I wouldn't participate with them either...
Posted By: Bimmer

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: kms
The commentaries after the article were pretty funny.


I agree. I like this one

Quote:
So I guess the Democrats are afraid of big bad FOX News ? Yet these pansies want to be the leader of the free world ! One would think that if they haven't the backbone to face whatever fear they think Fox News reporters or commentators may represent in the form of a question they are not ready to face the actions or words of leaders from Iran, North Korea or China to name a few.
Posted By: Bimmer

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:12 PM

Oh, and this one

Quote:
Well, bravo Obama. You pathetic bunch of cowards on the left make it so easy to hate you.
Posted By: kms

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:12 PM

If I was running for prez, I would participate with any major news organization. The publicity for one, and now they just look scared. I would do it just to show that I wasn't intimidated by any news organization no matter what bias they take.
Posted By: Imagine

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:16 PM

Sorry...I can take a lot of [censored], but when a "news" outlet starts spreading rumors that I was brought up in a terrorist school, then they don't get anything from me...

besides...you know how many votes Obama just picked up from the left in the primary by saying, "Screw you Fox News!" ?
Posted By: kms

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:17 PM

You are right, cnn, msnbc at all of the others only print the "truth"
Posted By: Imagine

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:18 PM

I'm not saying that...but CNN/MSNBC hasn't run a story, without it being substantiated, that Romney is a polygamist or that Gingrich is a member of the KKK.

Fox has run smear stories about Obama...
Posted By: TB 12

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:20 PM

If that were the case Neo, wouldn't he want to show what he is all about on this station? It is a debate, after all, cosponsored by the CBC-not a one on one with O'Reilly...Perhaps he would pick up some votes on the other side?
Posted By: kms

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:21 PM

Thats what I would think.
Posted By: Imagine

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:21 PM

Maybe Sox...I dunno...I don't work for the campaign, I can't speak for them...

But if I had my character attacked by a "news" organization, I wouldn't be too warm to the idea of working with them...
Posted By: TB 12

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:25 PM

Running from FOX tells me he is scared-as kms said, any additional national exposure only helps him. I think it being cosponsored by the CBC makes it worse. FOX is a news organization-you don't agree with it, doesn't mean it isn't news.
Posted By: Imagine

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:30 PM

Sox...you're right...I don't agree with it...but they never apologized for the false story on Obama...even after it was discreditted by CNN...

the decision is left up to Obama, and I stand by him on it.
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:33 PM

Originally Posted By: NeophytePolitico
you know how many votes Obama just picked up from the left in the primary by saying, "Screw you Fox News!" ?


And that, boys and girls, is what this is all about - nothing more. The lefties hate Fox; Edwards made a lot of headway among them by pulling this same trick; Obama is now showing what a statesman he is by copying it.
Posted By: straw

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:35 PM

Good thing candidates on the right don't pander to their base.
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:37 PM

When they start boycotting CNN, let me know.
Posted By: QCL

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:37 PM

This one was my favorite quote from the comments:

Quote:


Ron, lay off the caffeine!

Posted By: straw

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:40 PM

Originally Posted By: -J-
When they start boycotting CNN, let me know.


When CNN runs a report that McCain is a Manchurian candidate, let me know.
Posted By: Hated By Some

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:42 PM

Quote:
b/c Faux News/Fox Noise is the outlet that ran the fake "Obama's A Terrorist" story.

that would be as good a reason as any.
Posted By: Hated By Some

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Mom of Princess Nataliebear
This one was my favorite quote from the comments:

Quote:


Ron, lay off the caffeine!


lol
Posted By: B_F

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:50 PM

I'm all for him saying the heck with them. Now, will he say the same to the other major outlets?

I'd vote for a candidate who said enough biased press!
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 08:59 PM

Originally Posted By: straw
Originally Posted By: -J-
When they start boycotting CNN, let me know.


When CNN runs a report that McCain is a Manchurian candidate, let me know.


My understanding is that Fox reported that an opinion magazine said the Hillary campaign was spreading a story that Obama attended a Madrassa. Observations:

1. Is it now a "Known Fact" (tm) that everyone who attends a Madrassa (lit., "school" in Arabic) is a terrorist? Wow, how open-minded.

2. Are you really going to set yourself up like this? You mean that if I can show any instance where CNN has reported that a liberal group said this or that about a conservative - and this or that was questionable - that would be reason enough for Republicans to start boycotting CNN?

3. Even if the story is completely bogus (the school shouldn't be considered a madrassa, and no one in Hillary's campaign was circulating it), and even if Fox shouldn't have reported that it was out there, is the "answer" to boycott them? Should Republicans have boycotted CBS after Rathergate?
Posted By: straw

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 09:00 PM

He did; he said no to FOX
Posted By: BotV#6

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 09:23 PM

Obama appears to be an intelligent guy. Why debate now when the majority of the people are not paying attention to politics? He will probably get more press by ditching anyways because all of the other media stations will carry that.
Posted By: TheManofSteel

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 09:27 PM

In fact, he is quite intelligent, a Constitutional Lawyer (like my boy Mark Levin, only a leftie). And while I dread the idea of any leftist becoming president, Obama has infinitely more virtue than carpet-bagging opportunist Clinton, and if it does come down to a democrat in the whitehouse, I'd rather him over her anyday.
Posted By: Bimmer

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 09:46 PM

Originally Posted By: AMLFella
if it does come down to a democrat in the whitehouse, I'd rather him over her anyday.


You must be out of your damn mind! HeIl no!


But then again, I don't want to see any Damncrat as president!
Posted By: straw

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: -J-
Originally Posted By: straw
Originally Posted By: -J-
When they start boycotting CNN, let me know.


When CNN runs a report that McCain is a Manchurian candidate, let me know.


My understanding is that Fox reported that an opinion magazine said the Hillary campaign was spreading a story that Obama attended a Madrassa. Observations:

1. Is it now a "Known Fact" (tm) that everyone who attends a Madrassa (lit., "school" in Arabic) is a terrorist? Wow, how open-minded.

2. Are you really going to set yourself up like this? You mean that if I can show any instance where CNN has reported that a liberal group said this or that about a conservative - and this or that was questionable - that would be reason enough for Republicans to start boycotting CNN?

3. Even if the story is completely bogus (the school shouldn't be considered a madrassa, and no one in Hillary's campaign was circulating it), and even if Fox shouldn't have reported that it was out there, is the "answer" to boycott them? Should Republicans have boycotted CBS after Rathergate?


Who wound you up today? I don't care if politicians go on any of these shows. Whether or not to have debates is one of the oldest controversies of this Republic.

Since he is currently considered the front runner, I doubt he would agree to any debates on any station.

As usual, it is a vast conspiracy.
Posted By: Imagine

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 10:46 PM

BTW...anyone realize John Edwards also announced he'd skip it too...?
Posted By: TheManofSteel

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 11:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Bimmer
Originally Posted By: AMLFella
if it does come down to a democrat in the whitehouse, I'd rather him over her anyday.


You must be out of your damn mind! HeIl no!


But then again, I don't want to see any Damncrat as president!


I just do not trust anything Clintonian, Bim. It would be a lesser of two evils, both are socialist-leaning both support the general liberal party platform, but I just think he has more character than Clinton does. John Edwards is more libby than both of them I believe. Go Fred Thompson!!!!
Posted By: Hated By Some

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/09/07 11:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Bimmer
Originally Posted By: AMLFella
if it does come down to a democrat in the whitehouse, I'd rather him over her anyday.


You must be out of your damn mind! HeIl no!


But then again, I don't want to see any Damncrat as president!

wow, so you favor hillary given the choice between the 2?!
Posted By: Imagine

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 02:49 AM

HRC not doing the CBC/Faux News debate either...
per the right wing, hate blog of Ben Smith from The Politico.
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 12:10 PM

Originally Posted By: straw
Who wound you up today? I don't care if politicians go on any of these shows.


It's certainly their business where to appear and where not to. These gentlemen are deciding to score political points by excluding one network, and that is their right. It's my right to call it a load of balogna, too. I don't consider that "wound up".

Quote:
Whether or not to have debates is one of the oldest controversies of this Republic. Since he is currently considered the front runner, I doubt he would agree to any debates on any station. As usual, it is a vast conspiracy.


(a) I don't think there is a clear front-runner at this point. (b) My understanding is that Mr. Obama has agreed to six other debates. (c) I've never considered an individual decision reached by an individual campaign, then repeated by other individual campaigns when they see the positive reaction among the nutroots, to be a "conspiracy" - it's about as non-conspiratorial as you can get. Politicians playing politics - what a surprise!
Posted By: straw

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By: -J-
Originally Posted By: straw
Who wound you up today? I don't care if politicians go on any of these shows.


It's certainly their business where to appear and where not to. These gentlemen are deciding to score political points by excluding one network, and that is their right. It's my right to call it a load of balogna, too. I don't consider that "wound up".

Quote:
Whether or not to have debates is one of the oldest controversies of this Republic. Since he is currently considered the front runner, I doubt he would agree to any debates on any station. As usual, it is a vast conspiracy.


(a) I don't think there is a clear front-runner at this point. (b) My understanding is that Mr. Obama has agreed to six other debates. (c) I've never considered an individual decision reached by an individual campaign, then repeated by other individual campaigns when they see the positive reaction among the nutroots, to be a "conspiracy" - it's about as non-conspiratorial as you can get. Politicians playing politics - what a surprise!


Which both sides do. As you said playing politics; this is why I stay away from both political parties.
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 03:33 PM

Yes, both sides play politics, however, I think it's fair to observe that the hue and cry from the mainstream liberal media would be much different if Republicans were boycotting an established mainstream media outlet.
Posted By: straw

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 05:13 PM

bias and conspiracies at every turn.
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 06:56 PM

Bias is not a conspiracy. It's a tendency.
Posted By: straw

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 08:09 PM

Which is why I said bias and conspiracies. The and is a conjunction connecting two different nouns.

If I had meant that they were one and the same I would have said bias/conspiracy to show how they were the same thought, expressed with two different terms.

But thanks for taking the time to post.
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 08:21 PM

Oh, you are quite welcome - anytime!

A question, though: where do you think I indicated that I believed there was a conspiracy? You've tried to paint me twice in this thread as a conspiratorialist, which I decidedly am not. You've previously acknowledged that I'm always perfectly clear in my communications (unlike some), so, by inference, this isn't looking good for your reading comprehension skills.
Posted By: straw

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 09:15 PM

Originally Posted By: -J-
Oh, you are quite welcome - anytime!

A question, though: where do you think I indicated that I believed there was a conspiracy? You've tried to paint me twice in this thread as a conspiratorialist, which I decidedly am not. You've previously acknowledged that I'm always perfectly clear in my communications (unlike some), so, by inference, this isn't looking good for your reading comprehension skills.


Did I say it was you who had conspiracy theories? My how highly you think of yourself.
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 09:30 PM

Originally Posted By: straw
Did I say it was you who had conspiracy theories?


Straw, come on. Don't be a Huge Ron. In response to two of my posts in this thread, you stated:

Originally Posted By: straw
As usual, it is a vast conspiracy.

Originally Posted By: straw
bias and conspiracies at every turn.


Isn't one poster who says outrageous things and then backpedals without ever admitting they were wrong enough?

Originally Posted By: straw
My how highly you think of yourself.


Just an accurate appraisal of the situation!
Posted By: straw

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 09:45 PM

I am not backpedaling at all. I am just saying that all this talk here and on conservative talk shows indicates its all about bias and conspiracies.

Everyone is against on us, ganging up on us, double standards, etc.

You easily saw the inferrence in Ron's posts yesterday, but can't see the inference in your own. How unusual.

And please, lets not get into another I didn't say that, show me where I said that. I said inferrence. You will follow this with your usual denial, but unfortunately I have to get back to work, so have fun talking to yourself.
Posted By: Jokerman

Re: Obama Ditches CBC/Fox Debate - 04/10/07 10:05 PM

It's not a conspiracy; it is an institutional bias. I don't see that statement to be contradictory, but apparently you do. And that's fine - you're entitled to your opinion - but don't play this game of saying that I'm a conspiratorialist and then denying that you said it. I have more respect for you than that.

I don't know what my usual denial is, so I can't provide it, but I doubt this disappointment will put you in any more sour a mood than you already were. Try to have a nice evening, anyway.