SARs - to discuss with account officers or not

Posted By: Tryin-2-Comply

SARs - to discuss with account officers or not - 02/27/13 03:50 PM

We have some SAR filings that have been repetitive - we escalated that to our Executive Mgt with recommendations on closing the relationships. One of our account officers who oversees one of the relationships learned of this recommendation and is upset with my department. I've never discussed filings with account officers/ relationship managers - fear of them discussing improperly with the customer.

How do others handle this???
Posted By: BFrame

Re: SARs - to discuss with account officers or not - 02/27/13 04:00 PM

I have never disclosed a SAR filing to an officer/relationship manager. They are the closest to the customer & things do slip in conversation (or may be stated intentionally to give the customer a head's up), esp. when a customer has a significant relationship with the bank.

You stated that "one of our account officers ... learned of this recommendation." Did they learn of the SAR? Or just the recommendation to close the account?

If the officer only knows about the recommendation to close the account, I wouldn't be as concerned about that.
But if someone told an account officer that a SAR was filed, that's another issue. Someone with confidential information is spilling the beans.
Posted By: Dani York, CRCM

Re: SARs - to discuss with account officers or not - 02/27/13 03:59 PM

Generally, I tell them in every training session that I will interview them for SAR investigations, but I will NEVER tell them if a SAR was filed or not, for their protection. The one time I did have a SAR filing that resulted in a closure, the officer was very upset and felt that they didn't have the ability to defend the customer. I told them it was management's call and that the bank just couldn't take the risk associated with the type of activity going on in the acocunt hurting us during an exam. (I did not tell the officer about the SAR, just the decision to close the account) Fortunately for me, the next day we got serve with a GJS on that customer. The serving officer served it at that officer's branch. After that, he finally understood the severity of the issues and why we decided to close the relationship based on the activity.

You may not be as fortunate to have some "proof" for your officer, but feel free to use my story. The officer needs to understand that it's not about you or your department just wanting to toss customers, but that your department is trying to protect the bank from criticism and fines, and some of the bank's customers expose the bank a little too much for comfort.

You can also throw out there that had he been more helpful in the investigation, it may not have gotten to the point of closure in the first place (ie he could have called and gotten more info and offered some insight in to why the activity was legitimate and didn't warrant a SAR).
Posted By: ACBbank

Re: SARs - to discuss with account officers or not - 02/27/13 04:20 PM

Any time that I recommended an account be closed, I gave the account officer a heads up as a courtesy. In my old bank, Management would sometimes call the AO and question them about the customer and activity. If not prepared, they would be completely blindsided. I found that little bit of courtesy goes a long way in getting their assistance with future customers.

However, I would not discuss an SAR without anyone outside of the BSA Department or management.
Posted By: Tryin-2-Comply

Re: SARs - to discuss with account officers or not - 02/27/13 04:20 PM

thank you for the comments....
Posted By: Elwood P. Dowd

Re: SARs - to discuss with account officers or not - 02/27/13 06:32 PM

Depending on the circumstances, an account officer may need to know about the bank's concerns. They never need to know about the SAR.
Posted By: WonderWoman

Re: SARs - to discuss with account officers or not - 02/27/13 08:00 PM

To repeat what everyone else is saying ...

I always warn my officers in my training - that when I start asking them questions about a customer or an account - that is their "heads up" that "Something Ain't Right". & that if I do not get a reasonable explanation - over time, it may require account closure.

That way they can't say they were blindsided (well they can say it - but it doesn't have any merit).

I never disclose if a SAR was filed or not.