Beneficial Ownership and Trusts

Posted By: beegee

Beneficial Ownership and Trusts - 05/31/22 04:04 PM

We have an LLC that is owned by "A" Trust 25%, "B" Trust 25%, and Individual 25%. No other ownership is greater than 25%.

So for Beneficial Ownership I would would include:
Name: "A" Trust.
Ownership %: 25%.
CIP at least one trustee

Name: "B" Trust.
Ownership %: 25%.
CIP at least one trustee

Name: Individual
Ownership %: 25%.
CIP Individual

Question: if there are multiple trustee - do I have to have the ownership % of all trustees to answer the Ownership %.

Thx!
Posted By: rlcarey

Re: Beneficial Ownership and Trusts - 05/31/22 05:00 PM

Trustees do not own a trust - it is its own entity - nobody owns it.
Posted By: beegee

Re: Beneficial Ownership and Trusts - 05/31/22 05:31 PM

Thanks! I think I understand.

I would just put Individual, A, B = 25%.

Then just CIP one of the trustees for each trust???

Is that correct?
Posted By: rlcarey

Re: Beneficial Ownership and Trusts - 05/31/22 05:43 PM

See questions 19 & 20: https://www.fincen.gov/sites/default/files/2018-04/FinCEN_Guidance_CDD_FAQ_FINAL_508_2.pdf
Posted By: beegee

Re: Beneficial Ownership and Trusts - 05/31/22 06:01 PM

Thanks rlcarey!

I read the Q&A but I guess I am uncertain more specifically - how do I complete this section of the form for the trust?

This addendum should be used when there is legal entity or entities that owns 25% or more of the legal entity customer opening this account.

Legal Entity Name: Trust A
% Ownership in Legal Entity Opening the Account: 25%

Name: Trustee
Date of Birth: 123
Address: 123
For U.S. Persons: Social Security Number: 123
For Non-U.S. Persons: Passport Number and Country of Issuance, or other similar identification number
Ownership %: ?????
Posted By: BrianC

Re: Beneficial Ownership and Trusts - 05/31/22 06:09 PM

Beneficial owners have to be natural persons. You don't have to list the trust anywhere. You list one of the trustees.
Posted By: RockChucker, CAMS

Re: Beneficial Ownership and Trusts - 05/31/22 06:26 PM

One way to simplify your process is to not actually track the percentages, just know that if someone is listed they represent 25% or more.
Posted By: John Burnett

Re: Beneficial Ownership and Trusts - 06/13/22 08:57 PM

If a trust owns 25% or more of the legal entity, you do not identify the trust as the beneficial owner. You identify a natural person who is a trustee of the trust.

John Jones, Trustee
John Jones's personal info