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#242914 - 09/09/04 08:12 PM
Hurricane Ivan, Hurricane Charlie Redux?
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OK, so now we are in line for Ivan. We closed our Keys branches tomorrow and have a bunch of weekend calls set as we watch his path. Man, why can't these hurricanes happen in the middle of the week so my weekends don't keep getting ruined? I sure hope Port Charlotte and Punta Gorda don't get hit again. We all appreciate your concerns and prayers, thanks!
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#242915 - 09/09/04 08:51 PM
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I haven't seen the news at all today - has it for sure turned North? I thought it was heading toward New Orleans or Mobile (unless it got pushed back at FL by the cold front moving in).
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#242917 - 09/09/04 08:55 PM
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USA Today reported that they're predicting similar path as Charlie, but they aren't giving any guarantees what it will do after it hits Cuba.
We'll be praying for you guys down there! I can't imagine what you're going through.
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#242918 - 09/09/04 09:09 PM
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Thank God all we have to worry about out here in CA are earthquakes!
Hope you are all OK down there in FL. Our prayers are with you.
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#242919 - 09/09/04 09:10 PM
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Both the latest Weather Channel and NOAA projections have Ivan off the west coast of Florida almost due west of Tampa/St Pete on Tuesday afternoon. The last stats on Ivan from the Weather Channel havethe mx sustained winds "down" to 150 mph. That makes it a big Category 4 storm.
Get ready, Florida, here it comes again. Batten down the hatches and get ready to head north. Good luck.
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#242920 - 09/09/04 09:12 PM
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Hang in there!! Prayers for everyone's safety through this hurricane season are going to the Man upstairs.
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#242923 - 09/10/04 01:39 PM
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Good luck everyone.
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#242924 - 09/10/04 04:37 PM
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We won't know if it hits Florida until probably late Sunday. But I just don't understand how they can predict a storm which is going steadily at 10-15 degree angle for hundreds of miles, to just suddenly take a 90 degree turn up for Florida. I mean, it happens, but how can you predict that?
I pray it misses Florida, where my winter home is. My friends there have been through too much already. However, if it continues on its steady 15 degree rise, lookout Texas!
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#242925 - 09/10/04 04:44 PM
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Nanwa, there is some sort of front that is moving south from the NW. If the timing is right, it will push Ivan more to the east and cause that turn. They were talking about it on the Weather channel when I went home for lunch.
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#242928 - 09/10/04 05:32 PM
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Oh, yes, of course we have the horrible fires. I lost a horse in one of the fires a few years back.
Are you prepared for the Big One? They have predicted it for sometime very soon...
Florida! Please send us your rain...you poor things...
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#242929 - 09/10/04 07:24 PM
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wish we could send you the rain......minus the wind? that would be kewl!
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#242930 - 09/10/04 07:36 PM
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Prayers going out to everyone in Ivan's path - I've got a meteorology degree (don't ask...) and I absolutely love tracking hurricanes, but the damage makes me sick.
Bet the regulators don't bother testing business continuity and disaster recovery next time they come through certain parts of FL -- they can just see before and after pictures.
I'm curious about any of you with business continuity responsibilities in Florida that have had to activate the plan - are you finding things in real life that would help the rest of us? My biggest risk is a tornado in Kansas and forest fires in Colorado and New Mexico, but I don't think that's material - just wondering what I can learn from Florida.
In the meantime -- many prayers for safety and a wind shift that will knock Ivan out to sea to die quietly.
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#242931 - 09/10/04 08:19 PM
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MHS - you are quite the well-rounded person
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#242934 - 09/10/04 08:42 PM
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Prayers going out to everyone in Ivan's path - I've got a meteorology degree (don't ask...) and I absolutely love tracking hurricanes, but the damage makes me sick.
Bet the regulators don't bother testing business continuity and disaster recovery next time they come through certain parts of FL -- they can just see before and after pictures.
I'm curious about any of you with business continuity responsibilities in Florida that have had to activate the plan - are you finding things in real life that would help the rest of us? My biggest risk is a tornado in Kansas and forest fires in Colorado and New Mexico, but I don't think that's material - just wondering what I can learn from Florida.
In the meantime -- many prayers for safety and a wind shift that will knock Ivan out to sea to die quietly.
Hi, I hope it does too. But, we have learned that you need to have proper calling trees so that everyone can contact their staff and make sure they are ok, that you plan on getting to the office early after the hurricane so that they can set up and get the place operational so you can open on time, that many customers won't necessarily need access to the branch but may need repair financing from commercial lenders that can go out and find out if their customers have had great damage, to keep your generators fueled up and topped off, to secure hard drives when you can prior to the storm, to stock your ATMs way up for customers to use while you're closed, that you appoint one person per branch to check it out and assess damage if any. I will have to think some more, but that is what I can think of off the top of my head.
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#242936 - 09/10/04 09:16 PM
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Hi, I hope it does too. But, we have learned that you need to have proper calling trees so that everyone can contact their staff and make sure they are ok, that you plan on getting to the office early after the hurricane so that they can set up and get the place operational so you can open on time, that many customers won't necessarily need access to the branch but may need repair financing from commercial lenders that can go out and find out if their customers have had great damage, to keep your generators fueled up and topped off, to secure hard drives when you can prior to the storm, to stock your ATMs way up for customers to use while you're closed, that you appoint one person per branch to check it out and assess damage if any. I will have to think some more, but that is what I can think of off the top of my head.
Thanks - you found one I'd missed - hadn't thought about having the lenders ready to make loans in a hurry for repairs. That's a great idea.
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#242937 - 09/10/04 09:26 PM
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But I just don't understand how they can predict a storm which is going steadily at 10-15 degree angle for hundreds of miles, to just suddenly take a 90 degree turn up for Florida.
MHS, you've got the meteorology degree. Why will Ivan make the turn north and not just continue going west?
Because they can only make predictions based on a static pattern of what the prevailing winds, jet stream, various fronts, etc are doing, but those things are in continuous flux - if something jolts one unpredictably, it affects everything. They also have a prediction model of what path a hurricane is typically going to follow based on where it forms, but those are about as good as predicting the date of your kid's birth by throwing darts at a calendar from across the room. They have to monitor what's happening both at the surface and aloft at all the different layers of the atmosphere and make the best prediction they can based on what's currently in motion.
I'm up to my ears in work at the moment and haven't had time to go out and read the official hurricane reports, but I know a cold front has come through here and I'm betting that it's headed that way - that can throw a real curve ball into the direction of Ivan.
I know it's come a looooong way since I got my degree, but hurricanes are notoriously hard to predict with the amount of accuracy that we really need to know exactly where it's going to make landfall and with what intensity.
I had a friend who was with the Hurricane Hunters for a long time - I forget how many eyes of hurricanes he penetrated but his description of the flight through the hurricane and into the eye left me quaking in my boots. Those guys have to be half nuts. Chasing tornadoes is a LOT more fun.
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#242940 - 09/14/04 12:30 PM
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I foresee a hurricane baby! There is something about the drop in pressure that causes women to go into labor. My parents, aunts, uncles, cousins live in that area.
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#242943 - 09/15/04 12:14 PM
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Looks like it's the folks around Mobile that we'll have to worry about. At least FL will mostly be spared another disaster.
Good luck all.
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#242944 - 09/15/04 12:52 PM
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At least FL will mostly be spared another disaster
actually, the east side of the hurricane is the worst place to be. It looks like the entire Florida panhandle, and possbily much of the lower Gulf shore will be affected by storm surge and high winds. Good luck guys.
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#242949 - 09/15/04 06:44 PM
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#242950 - 09/15/04 07:11 PM
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God Bless you all, and remember possessions can be replaced, buildings can be rebuilt, but lives can't be brought back. Head for the hills if you need to!
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#242951 - 09/16/04 01:03 PM
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Kaybee, have you heard from your sister? I spoke with my parents this morning. They have no power, no water and still have sustained winds of 80 MPH. They have no trees left - all of them were blown up by the roots, the fences were blown out of the ground, some damage to the roof but it's not leaking. They are tired but fine. Here's a link to the Pensacola News Journal for more info.
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#242953 - 09/16/04 05:23 PM
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Glad to hear everyone's doing well, Kaybee. KCGEOQueen, have you heard from your daughter? Are you a grandma yet? I had delusions of going home to help Daddy clean up this weekend. However, P'cola seems to be cut off from the world right now. All roads leading in are closed - The bridges crossing Escambia Bay -both the I-10 bridge and the Hwy 90 bridge - suffered major damage. Hwy 98 is flooded. The National Guard can't even get in right now. So, it's hurry up and wait. Mother and Daddy have no news other that what my sister and I tell them when we can get through. We're having sustained winds of 15-20 MPH and tornado watches and warnings everywhere. I will be so glad when this thing moves on! Sorry SC,NC,VA.
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#242955 - 09/17/04 01:11 PM
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If you drive, you'll have to go thru Alabama - from the Montgomery area down. Those are the only roads available and I don't know if they are all open at this point. It's not safe to go down there right now.
This just in: The U.S. 90 bridge over Escambia River, between Escambia and Santa Rosa counties, is NOW OPEN after being closed because of hurricane debris AND they've reopened Davis Hwy - a major north/south artery. There is still some debris on the hwy and the traffic lights aren't working.
So now I can get home. I just need to figure out if HWY 90 is closed on the Alabama side.
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#242956 - 09/17/04 04:07 PM
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Thanks for all of the prayers. I stayed in Panama City during the storm. As you probably heard, we had several tornadoes touch down. Several of our employees live on Panama City Beach and actually watched one of them go by their houses. Luckily, everyone is OK. Several are still without power but houses are OK. My daughter lives in a mobile home in Fairhope AL. She evacuated and has heard that her home is fine.
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#242957 - 09/18/04 04:53 AM
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I haven't heard from my daughter today. I hope she is ok. I don't believe their cell phones are working. I talked to a friend in Crestview (north of Fort Walton) and they are without power. She is going to see if she can get in touch with my daughter through the hospital.
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#242961 - 09/21/04 12:50 PM
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Well, Mother and Daddy have water now - which is a big help. It still has to be boiled, but at least they can flush the toliet. No electricity yet - all of the power poles in their neighborhood were destroyed so the entire infrastructure will have to be rebuilt. Maybe they'll put the lines in cables in the ground this time instead of putting in new poles. Daddy was in line 4 hours Sunday to get more gas to run his generator. They are now getting the newspaper and mail is supposed to start running again this week. They are beginning to stop feeling totally cut off from the rest of the world. The blessing is that they only lost their phone 1 day so my sister and I could call them and let them know what was going on.
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