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#2009677 - 04/23/15 11:49 AM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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Government should stay out of education, in NY at least. It has been nothing but a downward spiral since Cuomo took office. Between the non funded mandates that have forced so many districts into fiscal ruin and mergers. We just merged 2 years ago and our superintendent at the time stated the merger was only a temporary fix, I almost jumped out of my chair! I will say that I do agree with the new teachers evaluations, I could never understand how a teacher, who I believe has one of the most important jobs, could be afforded such job security. In my years of having two girls go through the public school system I met some great teachers and some real duds. So making everyone earn their job security like the rest of the world is a good thing to me.
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#2010319 - 04/24/15 08:14 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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Teachers should be subject to yearly evaluations just like the rest of us. if you are a dedicated teacher in an inner city with no parental support for the kids, and kids who just don't want to learn, how effective would those teacher ratings be? while I agree that being a teacher shouldn't equal a job for life regardless of how one does, at the same time I've yet to see an evaluation proposed that did not focus heavily on how well the class was doing, and also how they did on standardized testing. both of those numbers can be greatly skewed, and don't give, at least in my opinion, a valid representation of an effective teacher.
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#2010644 - 04/28/15 01:38 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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But couldn't a principal or even an outside observer come in and observe the class a few times during the year and gauge how well the teacher actually teaches. But then you run into issues like we have in my district. Political good-ole-boy networking. There are TONS of teachers in our district that only got their teaching jobs because of who they know. I know several people in my town with teaching degrees, all of whom actually love children and teaching, and graduated summa-c um-laude with high scores on their Praxis that can't get a job in our district because they don't go to the right church or have the right parents. But we have quite a few who do absolutely nothing in class but let the kids watch videos or just "teach" the favored students (generally the children of prominent community members).
Last edited by Dani York, CRCM; 04/28/15 01:40 PM. Reason: BOL censors Latin Phrases! :D
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#2010653 - 04/28/15 01:48 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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Edit Reason: BOL censors Latin Phrases!  when did this happen. Ps it is not only the teaching jobs that have that nonsense. The administration is worse than the teachers.
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#2010656 - 04/28/15 01:52 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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Edit Reason: BOL censors Latin Phrases!  when did this happen. I edited my post to get rid of the censored insert, but it didn't like the middle word of the Latin phrase for "with highest honors" in my post.  Ps it is not only the teaching jobs that have that nonsense. The administration is worse than the teachers. Very true as well!
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#2011011 - 04/29/15 05:35 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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We got into the charter school!!! Latin, here we come!
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#2012702 - 05/07/15 02:24 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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Attaboy!! Did you buy him a book?  (That's usually my response to great reading level news.)
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#2012844 - 05/07/15 07:44 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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CO - I have just read this entire post and I have to say...I thought you were talking about me...HA! Your son is VERY intelligent..he is bored and a little overwhelmed with some subjects that he doesn't care for all that much (or subjects that "he can't see the forest for the trees" kind of thing) and maybe even a little ADD/ADHD (whatever they call it). I hated reading, but when I was tested, I was in the 90? percentile for reading comprehension and my IQ was in the top 1% of my class (up there with the all A's people). I didn't care if I made all A's. I could have applied myself and definitely done that, but I really didn't care. There was more to life for me than making all A's. I graduated with a gold cord (overall B average). I am STILL this way. Give me something that is too much or I don't like and I will do just enough to get by..because its painfully boring to me and I can't concentrate enough to really get it done! Give me something I'm interested in or a real challenge and the sky is the limit on what I can do. He will be fine. You just have to work out some kind of way or process for him to attack these problem area's instead of shutting down and taking D's. Each person is different on what that process is. But, he is capable of great things Momma and will be just fine. Of course you already know he can do great things.. :):):)
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#2015614 - 05/21/15 09:45 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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My daughter-in=law who is a stay at home mom,took the next to youngest out of school about the last 6 weeks of the school year. It was amazing how he improved, she continued the home school for his 3rd grade year, but she now feels he is better equipped to handle the work load, plus a different teacher. He is a smart little guy and he and the teacher did not mesh well. I think you are doing right by letting him move on, and not put him back in this situation with this teacher for another year.
Hope you all have an awesome summer!
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#2037672 - 09/09/15 03:08 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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That is great news!! Hopefully the rest of the year will go as smoothly.
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#2037688 - 09/09/15 04:27 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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I wish there was a "like" button on BOL. CO - so glad to read these posts. It's a motivation for me, dealing with a similar situation. Children (and adults) are all so different. What comes easily to one is a daily struggle for another. When your child struggles, you struggle. It's amazing how the heart of a parent is so content when a child finds his/her way, learns new things, has a break-through in life.
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#2038039 - 09/11/15 02:33 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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So happy for you CO!
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#2053560 - 12/10/15 04:47 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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Quick article on the end of No Child Left Behind. It will be a welcome change in my household and the school district. Hopefully placing education back in the hands of the state will allow for more flexibility and focus on things that matter. I'm hopeful that teachers will have time to teach instead of just preparing for the TEST.
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#2053562 - 12/10/15 05:07 PM
Re: Need help with my third grader
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Not to put a damper on it but it is being replaced by Common Core which did not go away by the signing of this act (or so I have been told) please someone correct me. Please.
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