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#1232776 - 08/14/09 02:13 PM
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I think Gibbs needs a telepromter so that he can finish a complete sentence.
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#1232779 - 08/14/09 02:15 PM
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Can I get a summary. I tried to go to the link, but it just gives a blank screen.
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#1232805 - 08/14/09 02:37 PM
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White House Expected to Explain Creation of Health Care E-Mail List After a testy exchange between FOX News and White House spokesman Robert Gibbs over an e-mail list, the White House says it will review names of recipients who received unsolicited information to determine how they ended up on a distribution list sent out by the East Wing.
FOXNews.com
Friday, August 14, 2009
The White House on Friday was looking over a list of names submitted by FOX News of people who say they received unsolicited e-mails on health care from the White House, Barack Obama's presidential campaign or his political organization, Organizing for America.
After a testy exchange Thursday between FOX News' Major Garrett and White House spokesman Robert Gibbs over the e-mail list, the White House said it would review some of the names of recipients to determine how they ended up on the distribution list.
FOX News obtained permission from some of the e-mailers who sent their concerns to FOX News and forwarded them to the White House. No explanation has yet been received.
The White House maintains a massive e-mail list as part of its effort to promote its position on pressing issues. On Thursday, senior adviser David Axelrod used the list to send out a "chain" e-mail asking supporters of health care reforms backed by the administration to forward his rebuttal to criticism circulating on the Internet.
The mail offered reasons to support Obama's agenda and tried to debunk what the White House decries as myths in the health care debate.
Axelrod wrote that opponents are relying on tactics including "viral e-mails that fly unchecked and under the radar, spreading all sorts of lies."
"So let's start a chain of e-mail of our own," he said, inviting supporters to forward a message countering claims that Obama's plans would lead to rationing, encourage euthanasia or deplete veterans' health care.
But some people who received the e-mails directly from the White House forwarded them to FOX News and asked how they ended up on the list when they've never been in communication with the Obama administration. Some wondered if visiting the White House Web site automatically places them on an e-mail distribution list.
Gibbs told Garrett on Thursday that he couldn't respond until he saw who received the e-mail because he doesn't have "omnipotent clarity."
Asked whether the White House seeks other pieces of information to identify those who might be curious about health care even though they have never signed up for e-mails or visited the Web site, Gibbs said he would have to see the e-mails to know.
Pressed to explain why he couldn't answer, Gibbs said "Well, I hesitate to give you an answer because you might impugn the motives of the answer."
"Why would you say that?" Garrett asked incredulously.
"Because of the way you phrased your follow up. I'd have to look at what you got, Major. I appreciate the fact that I have omnipotent clarity as to what you've received in your e-mail box today," Gibbs said.
"You don't have to have omnipotent clarity. You don't have to impugn anything," Garrett fired back. "I'm telling you what I got: e-mails from people who said I never asked anything from the White House."
Ending the exchange, Gibbs said, "Let me go someplace else that might be constructive." Click here to watch the Gibbs-Garrett exchange.
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#1232882 - 08/14/09 03:28 PM
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that's it!!!
Garrett better hire bodyguards......
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#1232895 - 08/14/09 03:36 PM
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
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hmmm...sending out unsolicited emails? isn't that a violation of the "can-spam act?"
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#1232915 - 08/14/09 03:44 PM
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Oh, I thought the act said that you can spam
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#1232999 - 08/14/09 04:34 PM
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Imagine that...a press secretary being asked an actual question from a member of the press during a briefing....will wonders never cease?
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#1233018 - 08/14/09 04:46 PM
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omnipotent clarity.....impugn ooooo I do so love it when they throw around those 50cent words. Take that you nasty press secretary! Might help if they used the words correctly...what sense does it make to have "all-powerful" clarity??
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#1233024 - 08/14/09 04:47 PM
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hmmm...sending out unsolicited emails? isn't that a violation of the "can-spam act?" It could be. It depends upon whether or not it's the type of message that would fall under the scope of the Act. It would also depend upon whether or not the Act applies to the federal government. I'm not familiar enough with the details without looking it up, and I don't feel like looking it up. 
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#1233027 - 08/14/09 04:49 PM
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and in addition to the can spam act, there is a potential problem about using white house resources for political purposes, isn't that so?
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#1233093 - 08/14/09 05:56 PM
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I think that is the point Mr. Garrett was trying to get at, that this is an incorrect usage of governmental resources...
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#1233095 - 08/14/09 05:57 PM
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Bugs - I would imagine that this does not apply to the federal government, just as most other laws don't apply either (hiring, firing, etc)
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#1233161 - 08/14/09 07:03 PM
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I think this reveals a big problem with the current administration...they view themselves as being omnipotent...they don't like being criticized or challenged and they don't seem to want to listen to the opinions or alternatives proposed by others..doesn't sound like a democracy to me. Just sayin...
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#1233175 - 08/14/09 07:12 PM
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I think this reveals a big problem with the current administration...they don't like being criticized or challenged... I've noticed the same thing from the President on down. What are some ideas as why this is. (I know this is the 'Cooler, but serious replies only, please.)
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#1233178 - 08/14/09 07:17 PM
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I think this reveals a big problem with the current administration...they don't like being criticized or challenged... I've noticed the same thing from the President on down. What are some ideas as why this is. (I know this is the 'Cooler, but serious replies only, please.) Honestly, because "I Won!" I think this statement early in his term summed it up. He has a much worse case of hubris than Bill Clinton or George Bush ever did, probably the most of any President at this point in his term, considering he hasn't done anything of value. (don't even think about sending this to the white house, i've sent it from a remote anon server)
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#1233191 - 08/14/09 07:35 PM
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heheheheheeeee
you guys crack me up!
I think the white house needs to be reviewing all the posts in the cooler!
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#1233193 - 08/14/09 07:37 PM
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How do we know they aren't?? And how do we know that one of you mods isn't a mole instead???
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#1233196 - 08/14/09 07:39 PM
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ET, you can trust me!
You know I want only Prosperity for you!
I am not sure about those east coast mods though, just sayin'...
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